Spit on that thang
I'm late and this will get buried, but this really speaks to the difference between the open source / ESR / OSI ideology and the free software / RMS / GNU ideology.
Open source ideology says it is better because it produces better software. If MacOS X was closed source and better it serves as a repudiation of that ideology.
Free software ideology says it is better because denying users any of the four freedoms is an immoral act. If MacOS X was proprietary software and better, it would still be immoral to deny users their freedoms; the ideology is not impacted.
Just how do we define our metric for best Unix? Cuz it certainly isn't freedom if Apples winning any awards.
It's definitely not comparing Server performance because OSX Server flopped in the early 2000's.
SOLARIS 8 IS BEST UNIX
I prefer Windows.
Yes this guy right here. Kill him with hammers....penguin hammers.
Nah, it's the "best unix" because being one requires paying those SUS bastards.
It can also be said: security by obscurity is the best scenario for the NSA
Unironically agree. I want to write my code, not your configs. The fact that saying it causes purists of every ilk to absolutely lose their fucking minds is a fringe benefit.
Security by obscurity is not real.
It can also be said: security by obscurity is the best scenario for the NSA
Are any of us ever real?
How can our eyes be real if mirrors aren't real?
Have you ever looked, like really looked at your hands?
They call them fingers, but I've never seen em fing.
Not on it's own. But as part of a multi layered approach of does help.
As someone who has professionally done legal reverse engineering. No. No it isn't.
The security you get through vetting your code is invaluable. Closing off things makes it more likely for things to not be caught by good actors, and thus not fixed and taken advantage of by bad actors.
And obscurity does nothing to stop bad actors, if there's money to be had. It will temporarily stop script kiddies though. Until the exploit finds it's easy into their suite of exploits that no one's fixed yet.
Obscurity is not security. Obscurity is the fake sensation of privacy, you are on the hands of the creator.
and on the hands of the NSA
Joke's on you: GNU/Linux isn't Unix to begin with (that's literally what GNU means: "GNU's Not Unix")!
Therefore, MacOS is "the best Unix" only because it managed to squeeze by the BSDs and some dead proprietary Unixes ("Unices?" "Unixen?") -- hardly an impressive feat.
BSDs aren't even Unix AFAIK because they didn't bother to pay for the official recognition, despite literally being derived from UNIX. MacOS is pretty much the only UNIX that the average user will actually directly interact with.
Now this is the kind of trolling I sincerely advocate.
Closed source is more secure because the viruses can't see where to get in.
This is why I stick to TempleOS, the only biblically accurate OS. With the power of God and high octane schizophrenia, I'm completely safe.
Any judgment of “best” needs to specify “for what use case?”
I’m a MacOS daily driver, and I think it is the best for most of the use cases that matter to me.
But not all of them. And my use cases could easily change a little bit and make MacOS a miserable choice to stick with.
Everything is a trade-off.
Edit: And as for closed source security, I hope nobody seriously makes that argument anymore, do they?
To quote from a paper on the topic of OS security:
According to the paper [5], windows is the most user friendly and has more hardware compatibility. In terms of security, Linux is the most secure among all OS given that it is an open- source operating system which gives users the ability to customize and implement security patches. As for memory management, macOS is the better option due to its fully integrated virtual memory system which is often on and continuously provides addressable space up to 4 per process. The virtual memory system allocates extra space for swap files on the root file system as a program uses space.
All available OS offer some level of security features such as firewalls, antivirus software, and encryption [6]. macOS has a level of security due to its unique operating system designed specifically for Apple devices with no third-party developers involved. Linux, being open source, is often regarded as more secure than Windows, which is a target of many malware attacks [7].
windows is the most user friendly
This is entirely dependend on what you're used to I think, because I used to think this too but now I can't do anything with windows anymore.
I did a wtf at dude 4 in frame 3 until I realized he was getting punched and not... well.. if you don't see it maybe I'm just net-warped.
Someone make a virus for his mac
*flames, screaming, sound of glass breaking*
God I love the smell of Usenet in the morning
But everyone knows that Mint is the best Unix. (Secret giggle behind my hand.)
I first resurrected a dead PC with RedHat before the turn of the century, mind, and that thing had UPTIME.
I still have me a massive soft spot for Solaris back in the day, though.
Thank you, you made a buncha nerds angry and now they're fighting in the comment section >:(
Lol this comment section is on fire. Irony died in 2015.
People like a good flame war 🤷
Just because one understands trolling doesn't mean it can't be fun to discuss the things the troll brought up.
Is there some twisted definition by which you can argue Windows is UNIX? Just to intensify the violence.
Based.
I guess we have different definitions of what "best" means.
Secure from whom? Sure to be more government backdoors in MacOS.
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