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[-] uriel238 219 points 1 year ago

My (unpopular?) solution is to make sure the rest of society isn't so desperate for food that they're willing to rob a robot.

In an unrelated suggestion, if youre in a grocery store and see someone stealing food, no you didn't.

[-] MostlyMute@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

As someone who works in a grocery store, most of the people I see stealing are stealing stuff like makeup or drinks and junk food, not necessities. And our regular thieves spend hundreds on cigarettes a week, while still stealing whatever they want because they know they’ll get away with it.

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[-] Zoldyck@discuss.online 115 points 1 year ago

Fix poverty and you fix a huge amount of other things.

[-] chaorace@lemmy.sdf.org 80 points 1 year ago

Ok sure, but have we considered arming the robots with assault rifles instead?

[-] thehatfox@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Arming autonomous robots, what could possibly go wrong?

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[-] Meruten@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 year ago

The article mentioned tear gas canisters be equipped instead. I can't wait for a delivery robot to be near my property, someone tries to mess with it and gets gassed, then I get to enjoy tear gas as well from my front porch.

[-] nous@programming.dev 27 points 1 year ago

Or some kid walks past it, bumps it slightly and gets gassed in the face.

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[-] Redditiscancer789@lemmy.world 102 points 1 year ago

What a pathetic bunch of people trying to maintain the slave status quo in these comments. WHY are you fighting to maintain a world where people have to work low tier bull shit jobs to survive? The answer, you morons, is to let the robots be and improve society to the point technology said it would. We re the most productive we've ever been in our entire history yet work more than any other time in history. We need work reform, not a robot genocide.

[-] Sarsoar@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 year ago

In an ideal world these robots would shift to there not being a need for "unskilled labor" and we would all have more leisure time. In the late stage capitalistic hellhole we are forced to live in, huge organization replace minimum wage jobs with robots and hoard profits and push people further unto poverty, while still overworking and underpaying the few people they do still employ.

If we had a ubi, then robots and self checkouts taking minimum wage jobs wouldn't be an issue because the person who's job was taken isn't just displaced and faces homelessness or death.

So I sympathize with the people who are complaining about the robots. As much as I want a scifi future with a bunch of automation, I want exploitation of the lower class to end first.

[-] Redditiscancer789@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Which is literally what my comment says, it's a work reform problem not a robot problem. This is literally exhausting your anger and energy on the wrong thing. Do you really think destroying some robots will change society?

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[-] Heisme@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago

Everyday we are one step closer to the plot of Demolition Man. I cannot wait to taste some boosted Taco Bell.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 77 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"The robots are constantly monitored and equipped with 12 cameras and two-way audio communication systems. Any improper conduct will be detected immediately. If an incident does occur with a Starship robot, one of our robot rescuers can respond quickly," robot builder Starship Technologies says regarding robot safety, adding that acts of vandalism or theft are reported to authorities.

While that may be true in theory, instances of actual prosecution for theft from robots in cities where they operate have not been easy to discover. As with far more widespread instances of front porch package thieves or shoplifters, despite the volume of video evidence the robots can produce the police have to actually take some investigative steps to identify and locate the suspects

I'm glad they've thought this through.

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 76 points 1 year ago

the police have to actually take some investigative steps to identify and locate the suspects

cops give zero fucks when crimes effect everyday citizens.

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[-] treadful@lemmy.zip 55 points 1 year ago

I'm far from a Luddite and I think robots in general are cool. But I kind of don't have an issue with people fucking up autonomous roaming robots. I haven't rationalized that opinion just yet, I guess. Just feels right.

Philly did nothing wrong

[-] chaircat@lemdro.id 36 points 1 year ago

I don't think waving away being a Luddite just by saying so makes it so.

I can't think of a single angle of principled moral theory that makes this okay. Vandalizing or stealing someone else's property they paid for. Hurting both the restaurant and the customer by depriving them of their food. Holding back progress on an invention that can reduce the need for humans to engage in a type of work that is hard, dangerous at times, and low paid.

From a purely rational on paper view, it doesn't look terribly different than saying vandalizing or stealing from delivery vehicles driven by people isn't wrong. What possible justification could there be for this view besides Ludditism fuck robots?

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[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Under captialism we lament robots taking our jobs, where under a better system we would be rejoicing.

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[-] cyd@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

You okay with people fucking up vending machines and ATMs too? Why or why not?

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[-] metallic_substance@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For me, this falls neatly into the "who fucking cares?" category. These things are deployed in very few cities overall and if the technology is ready for wide-release, you better have a more effective defense against theft than you already do if they are already being stolen from

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[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

1 spray can of black paint vs 1000 robot cameras, who wins?

[-] unreachable@lemmy.my.id 27 points 1 year ago

modern crimes in modern times

[-] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

These robots are a hazard and a nuisance to the pedestrians. I won't shed a single tear for these tincans on wheels. I would not order one of these either.

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[-] cyd@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Here's an idea, don't launch these services in low trust, high crime places. In California, people can walk into a fully staffed Walgreens and commit blatant theft with no repercussions; a poor robot out in the world stands no chance.

[-] art@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

There's a lot of parallels here. One I'm not on the side of Walgreens and I'm not on the side of the robot. If it comes down to petty crime but the only victim is an insured multi-billion dollar conglomerate I'm not going to shead a tear.

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[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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[-] scytale@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

This is why we can’t have nice things.

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[-] Bigmodirty@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

When wasn’t it going to be a thing?

[-] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

Well, this is a side of snow crash I didn't expect to see so soon.

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[-] janus2@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 year ago

"you wouldn't -d̵o̵w̵n̵l̵o̵a̵d̵- drone-rob a pizza..."

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