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[-] crowsby@kbin.social 180 points 1 year ago

I cannot believe that there are companies and non-wingnuts who are still actively using that site at this point. Like maybe at the start it was ha-ha funny watching him flail about with code printouts and unplugging random microservices leading to outages, but I feel like the moment he started actively funneling money to alt-right knuckleheads and human traffickers should have been enough of a kick in the pants for even folks heavily reliant on the platform to make their exit.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago

Thats the worst part about the real world, nobody gives a shit whose at their table as long as they get to eat.

[-] emogu@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Yep. It’s easy to complain or change your profile picture or share a link but if putting your money where your mouth is results in even the slightest discomfort or change to your comfort zone, that’s usually where people stop having a problem with the latest offense.

As long as our lives keep moving unaffected we’ll abide anything 😞

[-] CafecitoHippo@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago

The problem is that there isn't a great replacement for it now. The same with reddit. I'm on here and I'm on Bluesky. The main uses I have for both Reddit and Twitter/X is sports news and discourse. Reddit for the discourse and Twitter for the news. There aren't the communities here to have that. I want to talk Orioles baseball but the Orioles community here literally has zero comments other than bot comments updating scoring updates/pitching changes during the game threads. I'm trying to do my part and comment/post stuff to them but without any actual responses or conversation it feels like yelling into the wind.

[-] LostDeer@infosec.pub 10 points 1 year ago

Yea a lot of the niche communities haven’t and probably won’t migrate to these smaller sites like Lemmy and Mastodon. Don’t know how to solve the issue either.

In this case, the Orioles would have to announce they have an official mastodon to get most fans to move to it.

Personally I’ve just stopped using the internet for checking on my niche hobbies. A good number of Reddit clones have been trying to populate communities with bots to just post links but without any discourse, it’s the same effect as just googling “topic” and filtering for links from this week. I’m sure it will get better with time. Maybe

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[-] Kerrigor@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Porn is the only reason to use it now

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

That's the power of critical mass. Person 1 won't leave because they have too many followers and follows Persons 2, 3 and 4, who also have too many followers and only follow person 5 and 6 there, who...

The decline is gradual, but will hardly be complete. Facebook isn't as used as some years ago, but it's still absurdly big. Xitter is likely to lose some relevancy, but there's not much that can be done to truly "kill" it. One way to speed that up is if space karen x decides to block all porn.

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[-] mojo@lemm.ee 98 points 1 year ago

Say the line Bart!

Free speech absolutist

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 98 points 1 year ago

Stop enabling his childish tactics by continuing to treat his platform as some kind of essential tool for communication. It simply isn't.

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 22 points 1 year ago

It was - and it's not that the need has gone away or been fulfilled elsewhere, it's just that it's no longer viable.

I think paying close attention to this is important though. It's a case study that just keeps giving - every couple weeks we get an important reminder that billionaires and billion dollar companies aren't a good thing - their interests are not aligned with ours

[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

I have never used Twitter or X even once in my life. It's definitely not essential. I really don't understand how people have convinced themselves that short format screamposting into the void is somehow the peak of communication. Just quit and let your followers know why.

If people actually cared about what you had to say, they'd go wherever you go to hear you say it. If not, were they really all that interested in the first place? or was it just convenient because they were already on Twitter and so were you?

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[-] o_0@slrpnk.net 82 points 1 year ago

at this point, with twitter being inaccessible to non logged in user, the 'public square' thing is totally done,. Get off twitter now. There are alternatives.

[-] Bongles@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago

The way I use Twitter, I follow ~40 specific people. Half of them created accounts other places when Elon first started fucking around but they don't use any of them so if I want to keep following these people I'm stuck (and I do).

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[-] tonytins@pawb.social 49 points 1 year ago

They're going to have a hard time throttling the Fediverse.

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[-] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 49 points 1 year ago

This should surprise no one at this point.

[-] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 42 points 1 year ago

I don't give a xit about Xitter.

[-] teft@startrek.website 41 points 1 year ago

Wait, I was told net neutrality wasn't needed.

[-] elscallr@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

This has nothing to do with net neutrality. Either you didn't read the article, you didn't understand what you read, or you don't understand what net neutrality means.

To your credit, the use of "throttles" in the headline is (likely intentionally) deceptive. It's the wrong term entirely. What Xitter did was make their own servers wait ~5 seconds before serving an http redirect.

[-] teft@startrek.website 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Net Neutrality.

The principle that internet service providers should enable access to all content and applications regardless of source and without favoring, blocking, or throttling particular products or websites.

Sounds exactly like he is disregarding net neutrality to me.

Edit: To be clear, proponents of net neutrality believe that all corporations, not just ISPs should follow net neutrality. It's because of this exact situation that people want shit like this put into law.

[-] Cubes@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

internet service providers

This is the key here, though. Twitter isn't an ISP, they're just making it more annoying when navigating from their site to elsewhere.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

Which is hilarious. This will only hurt them.

People will just think Twitter is slow. Obviously Threads or NY Times will work normally when people are on those sites.

[-] teft@startrek.website 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Net neutrality is the concept of an open, equal internet for everyone, regardless of device, application or platform used and content consumed. You can argue semantics all day but twitter slowing traffic or redirects to certain other websites is a violation of net neutrality. If not the letter of the definition then for sure the spirit of it.

[-] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

They're violating the spirit of net neutrality, but not the law. Since they aren't an ISP, they can't actually slow down or block you from accessing certain websites. The most they can do is slow down (or block) their own URL redirection service when its used to access to those domains. That's within their right of free speech, even if it's really fucking petty.

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[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago
[-] aranym@lemmy.name 80 points 1 year ago

A Mastodon alternative apparently. Seems they haven't implemented ActivityPub yet? I'll stay away.

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[-] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 9 points 1 year ago

Birdy don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

On Tuesday afternoon, hours after this story was first published, X began reversing the throttling on some of the sites, dropping the delay times back to zero. It was unknown if all the throttled websites had normal service restored.

Who there didn't see that coming? They thought nobody was gonna notice 5s delays on NYT links?

That new CEO must be locked in a cage somewhere at this point because she is definitely not calling the shots on this, or "X", or any of the other nonsense that's still been occurring because only one billionaire egomaniac is capable of this absolute fucking trainwreck.

[-] Veedem@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

These companies either need to rip the bandaid off and leave Twitter or, at least, start establishing themselves elsewhere and encourage their users to find the content wherever that place is.

[-] rynzcycle@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

This is definitely already happening. It'll be slow, but both my wife and are work adjacent to marketing for larger companies and "well twitter is a shitshow, what else can we use" is such a constant refrain it's basically canon now.

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The most immature billionaire. Scary.

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 year ago

Doesn't that go against net neutrality?

[-] Rounddog@feddit.ch 24 points 1 year ago

It's Elon Musk. So it's not surprising.

[-] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

I love the article has an image of the letters T, W and @ from the building.

Good one

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[-] Spacebar@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Companies need to abandon Xwitter already

[-] JoYo@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

Twitter X Creator Dashboard pays creators for the distribution of CSAM.

If you use Twitter you are supporting the production of child sexual abuse materials.

[-] Teon@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

Elon CornHusk is nothing but an idiot and a MASSIVE bully. Nothing he says or does has any value.

[-] FlembleFabber@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago

Thank you for saying twitter

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[-] theluddite@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

I bet WaPo tweeted out this article. I'd check but nitter is down.

[-] JTode@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

There are those of us who were on the Internet before the capital showed up, and all of us said that it was a bad idea to use these corporate silos, that there were implications that were not great to handing what we knew would one day be the public square over to private interests. We were not listened to, of course, and for the thirty years that the government kept the house of cards propped up with zero interest they created a real illusion that it might actually work.

But maybe I have to reassess Elon. I have heretofore considered him something of a bad man, a Senator Palpatine with his "saving the world through capitalism" schtick, but with an Emperor lurking in his twisted mind. And here we have that very Emperor, taking off the mask. But perhaps... perhaps... perhaps Musk is actually Vader. Perhaps in revealing, to all with eyes to see, the very problems we Libre'd zealots have been crying out in the wilderness about, perhaps he is the one who will restore balance to the Internet.

Nah he's just an apartheid rich boy who talked a good line while he could keep pulling free money out of the bag, but now that he has to put money back in the bag he's taking whatever work he can get.

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