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Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) warned Republicans against opposing Donald Trump's nomination of Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) as attorney general, stating that MAGA supporters would target their jobs if they break ranks.

Tuberville defended Trump’s right to choose his team, urging senators to “vote with President Trump.”

Gaetz, who recently resigned from Congress, is a divisive figure within the GOP, having faced FBI and House Ethics investigations over alleged misconduct.

Some Republicans are openly concerned about the nomination and are deliberating their next steps.

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[-] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

Yeah I’m sure senators will respond well to threats — as well as some house members did to threats from Gym Jordan to make him Speaker.

[-] affiliate@lemmy.world 33 points 6 hours ago

are these those checks and balances i’ve heard so much about?

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Yes, but not in the way Sen McChucklefuck thinks. Senators are a famously ornery bunch. They're not going to respond well to threats.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 19 points 9 hours ago

Tuberville is another reason why Alabama remains f'ed up.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago

Tuberville? More like GROOMERville.

[-] BigBenis@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago

Whether you like it or not, you can't say members of the Republican party are not beholden to their voters. Can't say as much for the Democrats, which is why they keep losing.

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

They voted for better economy and we're dicking around making Gaetz AG. No, this is not for "the voters" it's to waste tax dollars persecuting Trump's political opponents

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

The qons are only beholden to the most terminally online of the magabrainz. Oh, and their donors.

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 209 points 15 hours ago

Tuberville defended Trump’s right to choose his team, urging senators to “vote with President Trump.”

The same Tuberville that held up more than 300 of Biden's non-political military promotions now thinks nominations should just get a rubber stamp?

[-] prole 26 points 9 hours ago

Yes. They don't care. Stop wasting your time pointing out their overt hypocrisy. It's exactly what they want.

[-] tempest@lemmy.ca 111 points 15 hours ago

I mean if you were hoping for some gotcha on them being hypocrites you should know by now that they don't care and neither do their supporters.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 8 points 8 hours ago

Tuberville himself wouldn't, but a lot of Republicans thought that was dumb as shit and was directly hurting military readiness. He does not have a good reputation in his own party thanks to that stunt. Tuberville's voters will still come out for him, but it takes more than that to get things done in Congress.

It's quite possible that more than a few Republicans will ignore Tuberville. The senate breakdown will be 47/53, so it doesn't take many to stop it.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

Being moral or consistent is viewed as a weakness for the qons.

[-] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 26 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

The same Tuberville that held up more than 300 of Biden’s non-political military promotions now thinks nominations should just get a rubber stamp?

Of course. You don't expect them to play by the same rules they try to impose on everyone else, do you?

Mitch McConnell has openly acknowledged, admits to, and embraces the hypocrisy as a political tool to be wielded as necessary.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

And America's voters have proven that tool to be extremely effective.

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[-] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 75 points 14 hours ago

And this is why they will fall in line. Tuberville's threat is very, very real.

Trump has long shown his power to make or break political careers in the GOP. No prominent member of the GOP has so much as criticized Trump and had their political careers remain intact. Liz Cheney is a prime example. Mitch fucking McConnell, who spent decades shaping the far right of the GOP and spent the past 10 years leading Trump's rise to power in the first place, is now being ostracized by some in his own party for not being MAGA enough. Adam Kinzinger, a former harsh critic of Trump, is now apparently trying to revive his political career by following the Kevin McCarthy playbook of sucking up to Trump..

They have both trifectas. They've got the White House/Congress/Supreme Court trifecta, along with the White House/HOR/Senate. It's their game. They get to play the game by their rules. And Trump has said that they're basically going to play Calvinball with the rules to get what they want. They have 53 seats in the Senate. If 51 of them decide that a simple majority can remove a member because they fucking say so, then that's the rule and there's nothing you or I can do about it.

This is the 2nd Trump administration. Get on board or get run over. Trump has far, FAR more power and influence than he had during his first adminstration. Get in his way and you will be purged. It's that simple.

And remember, all you people all over the other threads bitching and saying you couldn't vote for Harris because Liz Cheney showed up with her that one time....remember that you fucking voted for this.

[-] recapitated@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

On the Harris🤎Cheney issue, I think it's notable that the Harris turnout was actually quite large in many places, but the trump turnout was larger.

I can't remember what media I was doomfully consuming, but someone basically said Dems should not try to court Republicans to vote... because even if it works, they'll arrive at the polls and vote Republican.

[-] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

I can’t remember what media I was doomfully consuming, but someone basically said Dems should not try to court Republicans to vote… because even if it works, they’ll arrive at the polls and vote Republican.

Now this is an interesting take on it that at least makes some more sense. I don't think we have any precedent to really go on; how many times do we really see someone from one party advocating for the other guy. It would be interesting to study how valid it actually is.

[-] recapitated@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I'm not aligned with Kinzinger but I don't really see the kissass vibes. I think he remains as principled as ever but he is acknowledging the new conditions of the game.

[-] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago

This is the 2nd Trump administration. Get on board or get run over. Trump has *far, FAR* more power and influence than he had during his first adminstration.

Hoping you’re wrong and his mandate fades quickly and he becomes an ineffective lame duck as early into this upcoming term as possible.

[-] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago

So am I, but if I were a betting man.....

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago
[-] troglodytis@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

It's our primary hope

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Mmm. Arguable thus far. He can't get another legit election run so no one has any reason to back him past what they need to complete their goals.

I'm not gonna hold my breath but it's not a certainty yet.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 28 points 13 hours ago

then that's the rule and there's nothing you or I can do about it.

That is NOT true!

There's nothing legal we can do about it, but that not the same thing.

[-] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 13 points 13 hours ago

Of course, you can always try to go the extralegal route, but you need a hell of a lot of heavily armed people willing to actually do that. Problem with that is that a good chunk of said people just got finished saying "Meh, nah."

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago

Problem with that is that a good chunk of said people just got finished saying “Meh, nah.”

"BUT OnLy 3 PERCeNt oF The coUnTrY FOugHt aGainSt tHE BRiTisH!"

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[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Nothing in that hill article involves sucking up to trump.

He says Rubio's not the worst pick. Which is true.

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 20 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

GOP Senators: Sorry, I won't get to represent you this term. Thanks for the votes though, and the 6-figure salary and sweet benefits package. Byeeee!

[-] stringere@sh.itjust.works 11 points 9 hours ago

And lifetime pension regardless of time served.

The pension value can be up to 80% of the member's final salary, which is $174,000 per year. At an 80% rate, that's a pension benefit of $139,200. (The Speaker of the House has a salary of $223,500. The Senate President makes $193,400, as do the majority and minority leaders in the House and Senate.) All benefits are taxpayer-funded.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I don't think that's a necessarily bad thing. You don't want to pay politicians less money, when there is very little for anyone not rich or corrupt to run as it is.

In fact... I think we should raise all of their salaries to $200k a year, and implement a $10 national minimum wage. Each congress members salary is a multiple of 20 of the minimum wage in their state. So let's say your state has a $15 minimum wage, congratulations you make $250,000 rather than the base.

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

The salary is fine but not only is "insider trading" allowed but there's no divestment or blind trust requirement. Some politicians are "more equal" than others because they're already millionaires. The whole lawmaker thing is a side-gig.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Right... that's why there should be a high salary and good pension for running, getting elected and serving. If you can run once and technically retire decently, it would incentivize normal people to run. Hopefully once you have enough regular folk you can ban insider trading.

But even as it is, insider trading only really helps the people with money already. What am I gonna take the pittance I have in the bank and invest it? I would only be slightly less poor, even with some amazing trades.

[-] olympicyes@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

The tradition of giving pensions (at least for the president) started under Eisenhower. Everyone took one so Truman wouldn’t be humiliated because he was one of the few who entered office without prior wealth.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

According to Wikipedia the congressional pensions started in the 40s.

[-] olympicyes@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

This is what I was thinking of. I guess presidents did not receive pension until 1958.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Former_Presidents_Act

[-] olympicyes@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

That was almost a real time fact check! Well done.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

When I really don't know the answer to something new or interesting, I have to look it up. These are both fun facts to know.

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 58 points 15 hours ago
[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 11 points 8 hours ago

qon-addled magabrainz: "OMG! Hillary is sex trafficking children out of the basement of a pizza parlor with no basement, YOU GUYZZZ!"

{ Actual sex trafficker gets nominated for AG }

Also qon-addled magabrainz: "If anyone questions this pedo being AG, we will END YOU!"

[-] NJSpradlin@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago

Child sex trafficker.

[-] drdiddlybadger@pawb.social 14 points 13 hours ago

Child predator, paid children for sex over venmo gaetz. Yes.

[-] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 9 points 12 hours ago

I can no longer find the head of the human centipede that is maga.

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

It has come full circle and is continuing to march forward inside itself until it becomes a Mobius magapede.

Nothing Republicans like more than being infinitely up each others asses.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

Maybe Russia. They're close to the front, at least.

[-] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago

Tommy Tuberville is a very Alabama name.

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