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[-] keropoktasen@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Sue them for 1 million. Profit.

[-] Naich@lemmings.world 206 points 1 week ago

This is one of the most American things I've ever read.

[-] mEEGal@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago

lacks guns and burgers but I'll take it

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

The driver was distracted because he was eating a Big Mac while cleaning his pistol.

[-] bstix@feddit.dk 14 points 1 week ago

If only there had been a good ambulance with a gun.

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
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[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 79 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Is this fuck cars or fuck the us?

Show of hands, who pays for ambulances regardless of why?

[-] grue@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago

My intention is definitely "fuck cars." The fucked-up thing here is that even ambulance drivers, who should know better more so than almost anybody, are incompetently right-hooking cyclists. Billing him for it is merely the icing on the shit-cake.

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 52 points 1 week ago

A lot of EMTs work 24-hour shifts, and 48-hour shifts are not uncommon. The thought that the ambulance driver on the road next to me might be at hour 46 is... frequently worrying.

The problem isn't the EMTs being incompetent, the problem is with the industry standards and the employers.

[-] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago

That again sounds more like a shithole country problem tan a car problem.

[-] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Exactly this. They transported someone, they filled out a PCR for billing to send to insurance and the patient.

[-] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I was forced to work a few 24+ hour shifts in healthcare and working on zero sleep fucked me up. It gave me migraines, vomiting, insomnia, manic depression and I felt like I was going to have a heart attack.

It is beyond cruel and inhumane that employers can force people to work without sleep. It is so fucked that not allowing someone to sleep is considered a form of torture by the Geneva convention.

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[-] rbn@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 week ago

So your alternative would be that ambulances should no longer use cars? From my perspective all kind of emergency services such as fire department, law enforcement, ambulances should be the very last cars we get rid of as a society. They have to be fast and they need to transport a lot of stuff and people.

[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The rest of the world does without GIANT and dangerous emergency vehicles for one. They still put out fires and transport sick people. How american fire departments are getting people killed (video from "not just bikes")

[-] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

The rest of the world often also builds better infrastructure, like a protected bike lane, to signifcantly reduce the conflicts between cars and not cars.

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[-] Pickle_Jr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 72 points 1 week ago

Bikes: a transportation vehicle with health benefits. Ambulance: a transportation vehicle for the unwell.

Bikes are the natural enemy of the ambulance. A war between the bike clan and the ambulance clan is on the horizon.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Solution: Ambulance bikes.

(A show like Top Gear but for bicycles could be pretty awesome.)

[-] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 week ago

It exists

https://www.emergency-live.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/NHS_bicycle.jpg

It does not transport people but it is great for places with a lot of traffic to have a first responder on site quickly before an actual ambulance arrives.

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[-] fl42v@lemmy.ml 60 points 1 week ago

That's an interesting business strategy, I'll give 'em that

[-] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago

Like firemen setting fire to extinguish.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 53 points 1 week ago

The Ankh-Morpork Ambulance Guild strikes again.

[-] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago

Sounds like it's time for Vetinari to have a word with them.

[-] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 week ago

A hypercompetent autocract whose only concern was the perfect management of his city was the only unrealistic thing about Discworld.

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[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago
[-] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Don't catch you slippin' now

Seriously, don’t slip. It will both literally and metaphorically cost you an arm and a leg in the states.

[-] MrSusan@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Ambulance in my area

[-] Technotica@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago

A new way to make money! Much easier than waiting for someone to need an ambulance!

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[-] veganpizza69@lemmy.vg 40 points 1 week ago
[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

Sounds like a pretty straightforward lawsuit

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[-] affiliate@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

they couldve gotten way more than $1,800 if they hit a few more cyclists on the way. theres plenty of room in the back of an ambulance

[-] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 week ago

Maybe playing devil's advocate here, but if it was the ambulance's fault then the ambulance company's insurance should be paying for all of the medical bills, including the ambulance ride. And the bill for the ambulance ride pays the EMS workers salaries and the vehicle maintenance.

The amount of profiteering in the medical industry is obscene, but I'm not sure this is an example of it...

[-] Sconrad122@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

I'm not a lawyer, but it strikes me that this could be exactly what is happening. The ambulance company's insurance wouldn't pay the hospital directly, they aren't health insurance. So instead, the cyclist's health insurance footed the initial bill. Then they went after the cyclist for his deductible/copay/whatnot. Now he has to get the money from the ambulance company. If this was vehicle on vehicle violence, he would have gone to his auto insurance, who would have in turn went after the ambulance company's insurance, but he might not have auto insurance or auto insurance might not be willing to get involved because he wasn't driving. So he has to go direct to the company. Wouldn't be shocking if the company pushed off any non-legal petitions from him because he doesn't have the name weight of an insurance company with lawyers on retainer, so now he is seeking a legal remedy. Insurance doesn't just work always, there is often a degree of negotiating and litigation involved in these exchanges, especially if one party disagrees with another on matters of liability

[-] loics2@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago

How the fuck is this "fuck cars" content? I hate cars as much as everyone here, but I don't think we can replace ambulances with bikes

[-] DrunkEngineer@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It is "fuck cars" content because 1. the lack of proper bike infrastructure is what led to the crash, and 2. making road victims have to hire lawyers just to get their medical bills paid.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago
[-] Womdat10 2 points 6 days ago

The point of an ambulance is to get to the hospital as fast as possible, while have other people keeping the person stable. They also need to not leave the person exposed to all the various debris that is thrown up by fast moving vehicles. This is an awful idea.

[-] Cpo@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago

You, kind sir, deserve a reward.

Bravo!

[-] uis@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago

Meanwhile in Russia(and pretty much rest of Europe): citizems get full healthcare and even foreigners get some of it. For free.

This is what happens if any foreigner for example breaks bone in Russia:

  1. Emergency, including emergency specialized, medical care is provided to foreign citizens in case of sickness, accident, trauma, poisining and other cases requireing emergency treatment. Such medical treatment provided by state and municipal healthcare organizations is free of charge.
[-] LANIK2000@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Oh lol, America is now officially worse than Russia. Well that didn't take long.

[-] P1nkman@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

America is a third world country with a Gucci belt.

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