Dont expect the Democrats to learn anything from this because their Billionaire donors would rather they lose by promoting policies that don't threaten profits than win and cost the donors money.
Their billionaire donors don't lose, that's the point. Reps are following the same main purpose of allowing barely restricted capital accumulation.
To know what happens in US politics when the donors are seeing even the distant possiblity of losing one day, ask Black Panthers for example.
Who could've guessed that appealing to far-right republicans — who are going to vote republican anyway — wouldn't be a winning strategy?
Yeah, Democrats are always doing Republican-lite, then they're surprised that doesn't peel off voters on the right that will just always vote for the real thing anyway.
But if you point this out on Lemmy, you're a MAGA Trumper with six Trump dildos shoved up your ass and a fetish for fascism.
Got called a Russian bot multiple times for calling out the blue Maga people. Criticising the Democratic strategy is apparently the same as wanting Trump to win.
Oh it's an absolute joke. The most recent is a guy speaking to me like I'm a misguided child who was fooled into spending my fun money on a rock.
No, dude, the Democratic Party isn't progressive, and I'm tired of them demanding my vote while giving me the finger and making no progress. I still voted Harris, begrudgingly, but I've been "had" and "need to go rest and come back when I feel better."
She ran a shit campaign and lost, and her policies offered little to the average American beyond "not fascism," I'm not misguided, her and the Democrats fucked up. Like they always do.
Don't forget you're also a secret ~~jew~~ Russian
It is actually worse. It confirms the right wing standpoints and thus leads to a general societal swing to a more right-leaning worldview. This is basically what framing is. You can see this very well here in Germany, were basically the whole political spectrum nowadays presents views that would have been considered far right just 10 years ago.
They also make the mistake of thinking that in order to appeal to conservative voters they have to be conservative. I have more often gotten through to conservatives with socialist economics and anarchist political philosophy than I ever could when I was a liberal trying to sway them on cultural issues and basic welfare.
And after getting through to them they started to come around on the cultural issues too.
Fucking learn from this, DNC.
So, I'm just pondering here, but it seems to me that it's a bad Idea to run an unpopular presidential candidate because when voters choose to stay home, they also take their down-ballot votes with them.
They will not. They will do what they always do:
- rely on people being pissed off enough after four years of Rep rule to vote for the Dems no matter what
- rely on a few select 'free' topics (abortion, LGBTQIA+ rights etc) to show how different they are, when they are mostly exactly the same when it comes to topics that matter to most voters daily (ie topics that affect them personally, like their own economic situation)
I recon the only thing that could actually make them shift to the left is strong opposition from the left, basically a left Ross Perot, if you want. One that collects all the votes of the people who were too disillusioned this time around to actually vote, and then basically says "Shift to the left enough, be a real alternative, and you can have these". Without someone or a party like that, no, they will not change. They will continue to further the interests of billionaires, just like the Reps.
This means not endorsing Harris was the correct political move for Tlaib.
Tlaib correctly understood that she needed to appeal to her voters to win. Donors have a lot of money but it turns out they do not get you elected. Getting votes does.
Democratic party is not a left leaning or even a centrist party. Most of right wing policy of Republican presidency is continued by the Democratic presidency.
We have a conservative party and a very conservative party.
We have two very conservative parties with one trying to shake their branding of being otherwise.
Do not support genocide. It is that easy!
It's not that easy. Democrats have to go a lot more left than just "not genocide." They have to actually give a shit about the conditions of the working class if they want the working class to support them.
That is true but Tlaib won by an overwhelming majority of 77% against 19%. Indicating most voters did not blindly pick D or R.
I need you to understand something: Gaza is not the only reason somebody might have voted for Tlaib.
That is undeniable. Her other progressive policies also appear to be very popular. 77%!
Gaza gets wiped out even faster now on top of all the other bad things the GOP want.
Not that I believe that Gaza dissenters mattered at all in this election. I'd be amazed if even 1% of voters considered it a factor for their vote.
I think what you're supposed to take away from this is actual left wing candidates who are against genocide did well this election. A big part of why Kamala lost is because she did not have high voter turnout from the left. She spent most of her campaign trying to appeal to moderate right-wing voters who did not vote for her. And she also did not get the turn out of the left because of it. She should have been trying to appeal to farther left voters by promoting actual left Wing ideas and not sicking the police on anti genocide protesters.
But hey it don't matter, not like we're ever going to get to vote again anyway
Wiped out faster? Based on the stern red lines that cannot be crossed put down by Biden?
Locked in the basement of your mind palace.
Blue MAGA cannot fathom a universe where one of the two candidates isn't a literal Nazi.
This makes me glad. I obviously wasn't hoping for much from this election to begin with, but I've been finding a lot of silver-linings since the news started coming in. Shout out to Nebraska ~~and Florida~~ for their cannabis legalization ballot measures.
Florida's cannabis legalization ballot measure failed...
And thanks in part to Michigan voters, we have a president who will fuck over Gaza even more. Great success.
And so the voter blaming begins.
The voters are absolutely responsible for putting Trump into power. Anyone who facilitated that is fully responsible for whatever happens over the next four years.
Democrats are responsible for winning over voters.
The voters they kicked out at the DNC to make room in their big tent for the Bush administration, AIPAC all their corporate donors.
Ask those donors why they did not vote for Harris hard enough. Or the Republicans she was wooing over with Liz Cheney.
Maybe the ossue was Democrats trying to appeal to Republican voters, who would rather vote for Republicans and get everything they want instead of only some of what they want.
The only hope Gaza ever had was the Axis of Resistance, no matter who won they were facing annihilation and forced displacement. North Gaza is the blueprint for the rest of the Strip. Only if Israel is defeated can Palestine be free.
Short of putting boots on the ground or dropping a nuke there is no way to "fuck over Gaza even more."
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