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Oh no, not just my build server, Microsofts build server... Everyones' Azure build server - (if you're building on windows)
Imagine your compiler performing a license check.
It's not using just the compiler. This agent is configured to use the full version of Visual Studio for some reason, and building through that, which requires a license. You can build via the msbuild system, which doesn't require a license.
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pretty sure it's been a thing since even before free compilers
People forget that compilers used to be commonly proprietary and commercially licensed. Heck, I'm born on the 90s and knew that π
So so glad free and open source software took over though
There are companies selling a relabeled GCC with the O flags behind the license check.
Like ransom ware
Oh God I HAVE TO PAY? LITERALLY SLAVERY
How about, I don't know, not yanking the cord (or setting things up so the cord is yanked automatically) and pursuing the payment later?
But then that could mean that someone might - even temporarily - get something for nothing, and they can't be seen to promote anything even remotely similar to that.
Perhaps this tiny company are so close to the knife edge that they can't afford to allow it to happen. Must have constant revenue stream or else close up sho... wait, Micro-who?
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Imagine paying money for software designed to sabotage your business if you miss a license payment.
Uh... what do you think we do when a client doesn't pay us for a while? We yank their access. That's how services work, you get a few warnings that you really need to pay or you'll lose access and then, well, you lose access.
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Absolutely proprietary
As a sysadmin, fuck certificates. They are the bane of my existence. I vote we abolish certs and go Irish honor system!
certificates fucking destroy everything in my work for an hour once every year because of expiry
You are supposed to be tracking when they expire and then renew/replace them before they expire.
You are supposed to be tracking when they expire and then renew/replace them before they expire.
I've been told that, as well, but I'm not sure I see it... Seems like a lot of effort... (This is sarcasm. Or is it just too much honesty?)
Certs have existed a long time, are never implemented correctly, and the expiration cycle that is supposed to bolster security just causes pain as a result.
Certs should just be redesigned to have a kill switch. CRLs were supposed to handle that, but are rarely implemented or implemented correctly.
Certs are also used in so many places where they may not be suited to the task, but because they exist, they've become the de-facto standard.
A temporal expiration system seems flawed from the beginning anyway. What, you don't trust your system anymore just because time has passed? Time is always passing. Are we all secretly racist against clocks now?
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I swear to the gods, proprietary software is going to be the end of civilization...
Why are text editors cloud services now?
So they can charge subscriptions
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Microsoft Hosted Agents have an expired Visual Studio license.
Is it like, Microsoft has to renew licence with Microsoft?
Or are they pushing for an upgrade?
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I don't get the appeal of azure because of things like this.
annoying how much they try to push it
Moving to the cloud is a business decision not a technical one.
Csuite sees us spending Capex 200K on a server or 2 and several thousand opex per year to maintain it.
Cloud takes that 200K Capex and move it to Opex with significant markup markup.
From a technical pov we st it as a waste but business will business itself into cost overruns
But they promised we could save a ton of money with their monitoring dashboards we won't look at until suddenly we get a bill that is 5x what they promised!
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The company I work for loves Azure. If it's not available as an Azure service it won't be used (except for uptime kuma). Some time ago there was a global Azure outage and we could do literally nothing. All tasks and code were on Azure Devops and all communication went through Teams and Outlook.
The webhook integration has also recently been removed from Teams so uptime kuma also didn't work for like a week until it was fixed by using Azure's automation service.
Azure is absolute trash. Its like Word but for the cloud.
I mean, they do have word for the cloud now.. But I get what you're saying
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Walled garden or die
Thats how i read azure
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Isnβt that an IDE? Why would a build server need that? Sigh.
For using msbuild or vsbuild to build C projects.
Can be installed standalone but it's typically just easier to install the full VS suite because on a shared runner it's better to include the entire kitchen.
For C, I use Makefiles. The Microsoft ecosystem sounds like a nightmare.
They started at Java's build system and set a course for Hell.
Maven works without an IDE. (And so does ant if youβre going back that far.)
And really early Java we used Makefiles.
Anyway all of that worked without an IDE.
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~~I didn't even know VS Code was something you could pay for.~~
~~Also, are you using Discord bots for work?~~
Edit: Nope and nope.
As is tradition with MS and their complicated naming policies Visual Studio is not VS Code.
Also, VS Code is mid, not even working correctly and definitely not OOB on Linux in my experience, and VS just does not support Linux at all. And is shit anyway.
VS's built-in .NET debugger is top tier, though. Especially the ability to edit code while it is running.
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Visual Studio and VS Code are two separate products, I'm afraid. Visual Studio is a .NET IDE and build tool, as opposed to VS Code which is essentially an extensible text editor.
Edit: also the screenshot looks like it might be from Slack?
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That's not a Discord bot, it's a Slack RSS App / RSS subscription.
Event Source: https://status.dev.azure.com/_event/543117809
It's pretty useful 'for work' because occasionally you'll get notifications when parts of infra might be down (like your build server)
I'm not familiar with the service, can someone explain? Like, are all pipelines on Azure affected? Or is it some internal stuff where a company relying on paid tech forgot to pay for it?
No, not some internal company, just Microsoft being Microsoft. So all Windows pipelines. They also have Linux based pipelines so not completely all pipelines.
But given that a lot of people build dotnet stuff on Azure, the 'windows-latest' image is usually the default. So a lot of pipelines
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I think they forgot to pay themselves to use their product.
I am not sure if Martin would appreciate his name this clear on the lemmyverse.
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