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Can someone do a quick ELI5 on who the bad guys are here? So much crazy shit going on all over the world I'm having trouble keeping up with who the fascists are.
This one seems more cut and dry that other global issues. Madurai has been ruling Venezuela for a long time. An election was held where he wouldn’t let leaders stand against him in the election and had anyone viewed as possibly winning arrested. He did allow the one person to run who he felt wasn’t a threat. That person ended up winning the election but Maduro won’t recognize that he lost and won’t release any proof that he won. The person that won has released proof that he won. Now Maduro says that anyone doubting his narrative is a terrorist. Obviously Russia and China are siding with Maduro as they don’t much like elections either but the rest of the world is pretty unhappy about this development along with the majority of the Venezuelan population. Current supports and members of the party that won are apparently in the embassy that Maduro appears to be surrounding.
I think it is important to remember, that the US tried to stage a Coup in Venezuela in 2020. And given the many Coups of the US in South- and Central-America, it is natural for the opponents of the US to also oppose any US backed politician in the region, irrespective of who actually won the elections. This does not excuse Maduro, but the US directly meddling in South-America and Central-America is alive and well as it ever was.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gideon_(2020)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change
You're not wrong, but I also think it's important to point out that just because the US interfered in 2020 doesn't mean it interfered in 2024. In fact, I can think of a reason or two -- like, say, Biden being in office instead of Trump -- why its policy on attempting coups might be vastly different.
That is not what i wanted to say with that. My point is that nobody of the external powers has any interest in Democracy. If the results of an election align with their interests, they are fine with it, but otherwise they'll meddle.
not to mention notorious war hawk john bolton who probably didn’t argue too much.
Venezuela's current leaders are denying the results of a landslide election which they lost, despite massive interference with the opposition's campaign. The leaders of Venezuela are now trying to arrest all the opposition figures they can and has promised to send them to prison camps.
Maduro et co, the ones in charge of Venezuela, are fascists pretending to be socialists.
Daily reminder that authoritarianism and socialism are logically, theoretically, and obviously incompatible. That’s why tankies sound so incoherent.
Tankies: "We need to distribute the essential levers of power (economic) amongst the workers!"
Sane Leftists: "Excellent! How are we going to do that in this particular case, now that we've gained control of the country?"
Tankies: "Putting all economic authority into the hands of state-appointed bureaucrats in a non-representative government that operates purely according to the desires of a small party clique in which the workers have no say, and jailing workers who disagree. Oh, and you."
Probably the guy trying to arrest his political opponents just for existing. I don't know enough details about the election to say anything about that, but arresting political candidates for political reasons makes you a bad guy.
Pretty much everybody's the bad guy here, tbh. Sort of a Lybia-during-Gaddafi situation - he was horrible, but it's not like they've been in a great place since.
Bullshit. He lost, and like most shitty authoritarians like Putin and Xi, he's refusing the will of the people like the piss baby he is.
That's not mutually exclusive with what I said.
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