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[-] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Lizardman constant. You'd probably have about 3% answering yes in California or Maine as well.

[-] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 6 months ago

Actually the lowest value on the map for the discrepancy to the definition.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 27 points 6 months ago

I would call ND SD KS NE "Great Plains."

Idaho? Really?

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Oklahoma is also not Midwest. They aren't friendly enough.

[-] DaSaw@midwest.social 4 points 6 months ago

Great Plains and Midwest are almost synonymous.

[-] stickyShift@midwest.social 23 points 6 months ago

As a Wisconsinite, I've always been confused why it's considered "midwest". Wisconsin is in the eastern half of the US, and at the very top. Should be called the "midnorth"

[-] KaiReeve@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago

Well America used to be just a handful of colonies along the eastern seaboard, but then there was the whole manifest destiny thing. Going west meant heading out to the new frontier. Midwesterners are people who gave up midway.

[-] Zorsith 7 points 6 months ago

Also sometimes referred to as the "Midwest Expanse"

[-] DaSaw@midwest.social 4 points 6 months ago

"Midwest" was once called "West". Like, Ohio was "The West", with "The West" meaning anything west the coastal plain.

Then people went even further west, but they still wanted to call the west of the past "West" so they called it "Middle West".

You kind of see the same thing in Asia. To Europe, Jerusalem was in "The East". Heck, even Constantinople was in "The East?" Then people saw just how much East there was. So... Middle East?

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[-] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

As a born and bred Seattleite, I consider Wisconsin east coast. I also consider Montana east coast. Idaho? Not Midwest. East coast. Spokane? East. Hawaii? So far west it's east. Everything is east.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Ohhhhh! East! I thought you said Weast

[-] Stern@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago

25% confusion. Idaho is mid and west, but not midwest. Y'all Pacific Northwest.

[-] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Idaho is sometimes considered Pacific Northwest (in particular North Idaho) but generally Idaho is Inland Northwest

[-] hobovision@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

Would that be a subregion within the mountain west?

[-] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yes, although sometimes east Washington is also called inland Northwest but is distinctly not part of the mountain west. A lot of the "who is what Northwest" confusion comes from which group a person wants to associate with or other from more. People in Seattle typically call anything east of the Cascades inland Northwest, people in the Palouse area often refer to themselves as Pacific Northwest so naturally that includes all of Washington, Idaho is in a perpetual identity crisis because of the large cultural difference between North and South Idaho. People in South Idaho refer to themselves either as inland Northwest to be more associated with Washington/Oregon (but not be so left leaning as to associate with the pnw) or as Midwest if they're culturally closer to the farmers and truckers coming out of the actual Midwest.

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

I'd argue it should be in The Rockies region. Not sure if that's a regional identifier out west like Appalachia is, but 1/2 of Idaho is in the Rocky Mountain range

[-] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

I'm used to people saying Rockies when talking about the mountains themselves. See other comments about calling the region the Mountain West though, or Mountain States, which are named that because of the Rockies

[-] AncientFutureNow@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

Conservatives in charge of education in Idaho got mfrs identifying as Midwesterners. 🪓🚁

[-] digeridoo@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 months ago

I'm a product of the Idaho education system, and it's not great. Luckily got a start in Washington, so it didn't ruin me completely. But that result does not surprise me at all.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

How does Ohio barely beat Oklahoma?

What even is Oklahoma? Other than a failed petrostate

[-] dodgy_bagel 8 points 6 months ago

It's at an unholy cultural crossroads. Can't decide if it's Midwestern, Southern, Southwestern, or Texan.

[-] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago

The weeeeed capital of America babbbbbyyyy

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

That’s Vermont, it’s Appalachia for hippies

[-] carbonari_sandwich@lemm.ee 13 points 6 months ago

Imagine living in Arkansas and trying to claim you are a Midwesterner with a straight face.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Imagine doing so in Idaho! Like that’s almost all the way west

[-] objectionist@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago

okay but i live on like the very edge, so… pseudo-midwest?

[-] carbonari_sandwich@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

I can get on a bike and ride to Oklahoma or Missouri from my house, but I can't fathom saying "you guys."

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[-] blackstampede@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 months ago

I want to meet the 9% of people in Pennsylvania that think they're in the Midwest.

[-] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago
[-] Coskii 2 points 6 months ago

They're probably somewhere near the midwest of the state...

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[-] pugsnroses77@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 months ago

wyoming and colorado are so high? like nah bro ur j west. also ohio being lower than illinois is nuts. maybe a lot of people in the appalachia region bc here in toledo we know where we are.

[-] astanix@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

It really feels like there's been some sort of movement in Ohio to disown being in the Midwest. I'm in north east Ohio and I know I'm in the Midwest.

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[-] Bye@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Yeah I can’t believe it. We are “mountain west” (as opposed to pacific west).

[-] xv9d@kbin.social 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

My bet with Wyoming is that most of the (admittedly small) population is in the Eastern part of the state, like Cheyenne and Laramie, if kinda makes sense they'd see themselves as more "Midwest"

[-] YerbaYerba@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

Same for Eastern Colorado. It looks suspiciously like Kansas, but more desolate.

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

It’s probably the same confused souls in Kentucky

[-] DaSaw@midwest.social 3 points 6 months ago

From the driver's seat of a semi, Colorado feels like bits and pieces of its neighboring states smooshed together. You got Utahrado, New Mexirado, Wyomirado, and, yes, Nebraskarado, which is probably where the Midwestern Coloradans live. The only part where I really feel like I'm in a distinct state is the high mountain forests that shoot down the middle of the state.

Denver is probably where it is because it's right at the intersection of quite a few of these biomes. I wouldn't be surprised to learn it's been a major trading center for about as long as humans have roamed the continent.

[-] nilclass@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 6 months ago

Can someone explain to a european why this huge chunk of the eastern half of the country is called "midwest"?

[-] SparrowRanjitScaur@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It makes more sense when you consider that for most of US history the country was significantly smaller than it is now. Originally the country pretty much just consisted of the East Coast - and France, England, and Spain still had large chunks of territory within the US's current borders.

Much of what's now considered the west wasn't captured from Spain/Mexico until much later. So basically just look at it from the perspective of the East Coast where the US originated. To them at that time what we consider the Midwest now would have just been the west. And the terms changed with the westward expansion.

[-] Floey@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago

Manifest destiny / westward expansion

[-] Wirlocke 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

As someone who moved here from New England let me explain.

  • Cheese curds
  • Dontcha know?
  • Discount Canada

That's the midwest.

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[-] ramble81@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago

I’d be curious about Texas. I hear it labeled as South, Southwest and then just Texas

[-] DaSaw@midwest.social 3 points 6 months ago

Coastal part is The South. Inland, you get Southwest. Then there's the panhandle, and while I don't know much about what the locals think of it, from the driver's seat of a semi it's indistinguishable from the flatter parts of Oklahoma. (Meanwhile, one of my favorite truck stops is in the hilly part of Oklahoma: the Chocktaw travel center in Stringtown.)

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[-] Pulptastic@midwest.social 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Lol The Ohio

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I’ve definitely visited that 9% in Pensyltucky.

[-] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

The Ohio River was once the border of the frontier. Some ways that border is still there.

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[-] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

!cartographyanarchy@lemm.ee

[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

How is Ohio officially midwest 🙄

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