Streisand Effect will kick in soon. I don’t even know any deep fake porn sites.
I came here to post this. One should be careful because the action itself draws attention.
Can't just ignore it either. And it's a catch 22, if you don't talk about it people assume it isn't a problem. But if you do, it brings more shitty people to the sites and copycat sites. Also, unfortunately most female public figures have already been targeted by these sites.
One of the issues here is that there is likely considerable overlap between people who are competent enough to circumvent the block with a VPN or the like, and people who'd be seeking out AI deepfake porn, just because the latter likely appeals to socially outcast (and unfortunately therefore often more tech savvy) people.
I'm in the UK and glad this has been blocked but I also absolutely don't trust the weird internet puritanism of the UK government, for at least the time I've been following politics as a you g teenager, there have been many attempts to block various aspects of porn on the internet, normally from a point of protecting children but the whole thing has always reeked of the government testing public outcry on blocking parts of the internet to later re-attempt to censor on their interests.
ITT: Assholes asking "ironically" for deepfakes.
Yeah I get the sunny references, but the reason you are all thinking the same thing is because y'all acting like Mac. Who to be clear, was a giant PoS for asking the question. It should be a big ass red flag when you emulate the gang.
What about those of us who think deep fakes are no different than someone drawing a bad fan porno fiction?
I would recommend to get some empathy, not bad in general.
To me it’s not about empathy, it’s about doing what you want as long as your not harming anyone.
And I believe if I draw some picture of (let’s say you) and keep it to myself (or with those who consented to seeing said drawing), there is nothing wrong with that.
I doubt you would agree though.
Edit: for future readers, please note that responding to a logic argument with saying “what about empathy”, is actually the logical fallacy “appeal to emotion”.
Downvote away if you like.
And I believe if I draw some picture of (let’s say you) and keep it to myself (or with those who consented to seeing said drawing), there is nothing wrong with that.
Sure. But that's not what happens with deepfake porn sites? They are public.
Sure. But that's not what happens with deepfake porn sites? They are public.
Wouldn’t a content warning take care of that? As long as every user visiting knows they are consenting to see “bad porn drawings”, it’s still the situation I originally described.
Sure, what ever helps you masturbate. But again - you can also have empathy with people who it has an effect on, listen to why and how and masturbate to all the other porn out there. But you wont since you lack basic empathy or maybe the whole hurting people is what gets you off in the first place. Not judging.
But you wont since you lack basic empathy
Don’t know where I claimed this or implied this.
Idk how you could possibly know or judge that someone has or doesn’t have empathy for other human beings while discussing personal freedoms that don’t affect others.
I guess strawman is the only way to respond to simple logic of “if your actions don’t hurt anyone, it’s fine”
I’m good with ending this convo here, have a nice day.
Not seeing how your actions are hurting others, despite them even telling you - is mostly related to lack of empathy. Not that complicated, just simple logic.
Again, creating said artwork would be the action which does not hurt anyone.
Your probably claiming others would use said artwork to hurt people.
That sucks and I don’t support that. But imo one person doing something wrong is on them, it doesn’t make the artwork creator who did nothing wrong guilty.
If I were to make a hammer and sell it, then someone else uses the hammer to kill someone, I wouldn’t be guilty.
Dude, I thought you left?
Your probably claiming others would use said artwork to hurt people.
Again if you would have empathy you could just listen to people, what and how they are hurt by deepfakes and understand what the problem is. Since you don't have empathy, nothing I will tell you would make any sense for you.
Dude, I thought you left?
Your right, the last few comments have been going in circles and I’m probably wasting my time. Will leave this bad faith argument now. Doubt you will ever know what an appeal emotional logical fallacy is.
Still here?
Doubt you will ever know what an appeal emotional logical fallacy is.
Again, we are talking about empathy and you clearly show that you don't get it. Which was my point to begin with. Sorry mate to be the one bringing you the news.
The scale and ease of use is the real problem. Anyone who would draw pictures of women they know naked to jerk off to is obviously a creep. But that's a creep who had to spend years of their lives practicing to draw realistic bodies. Not literally any person who happens to have a folder full of their Facebook friends.
Like roll the clock back and pretend this is about the dangers of cars running people over. When there is only a couple cars out there it's easy to say "But what about the horses that run people over", but fast forward to today and death by auto wildly outranks death by horse. Horses and car deaths are still a problem, but citing horses as to why car deaths aren't so bad is ludicrous, disengenerous and asinine
Two things can be a problem, but easily accessible deep faking by anyone with a boner and a spare minute is not the same to someone spending hours over a suacy oil painting.
It's not about what you think, if a future employeer doing extensive checks on you thinks it's real then that can have real world consequences for you.
Also you are thinking about deepfakes of today and not the deepfakes of 5 years from now or 10 years from now. It will get to a point where no one will be able to tell if they are fake or real.
Ok but what are the sites? For science of course.
That’s disgusting, where?
First line of the article:
Two of the biggest deepfake pornography websites have now started blocking people trying to access them from the United Kingdom.
This isn't (yet) the UK blocking access to them as part of a Great Firewall of Britain thing. This is the sites themselves blocking visitors from the UK, the same as porn sites for various US states.
As with porn sites, it'll be using the geoIP tag of your IP address, which is notoriously unreliable, especially near geopolitical boundaries.
Using a VPN or even a third-party (rather than your ISP's) DNS server will often get around them. However, doing so will eventually probably get you in trouble.
Sadly being an island, the unreliability near border boundaries isn't an issue, except for northern Ireland
What is this 12ft proxy?
It removes paywalls and ads.
Damm that's great
It's used to bypass paywalls.
A few security vendors are flagging it as a malicious site... I would be wary about clicking this link or using this site: https://www.virustotal.com/gui/url/6cbf35e9b2160be2aa59844f900f911113b7fe724b1d941853a4b8253586acfc
What are the chances that the ones marking as malicious are owned by media conglomerates that are losing money because of the service 12ft supplies?
Website scanning for malware or other undesirable content is extremely unreliable and prone to false positives. None of the three vendors are very well known (except for a few other reports of false positives). If anything that's a pretty low hitrate on virustotal all things considered. Don't put too much stock in the heuristics of companies whose business model revolves around scaring their customers and exploiting computer illiteracy.
3/92 on virus total is a great result. The only scanners reporting a problem are the ones that are always wrong.
For scanning files, maybe.
The vast majority of websites I go to have 0 detections.
Occassionally, there are some with 1 detection.
3 looks suspicious to me based on my experience, but I'm leaving that for everyone else to decide.
At least this way everyone can make their own informed decision about visiting some random proxy site that they'd never heard of before.
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Bringing a whole new meaning to "TRUMP SLAMS PELOSI"
Like two leather bags slapping together
I did not want that image in my mind... Thanks...
The UK populace is showing us that there are other peoples, European peoples, just as stupid as Americans! We are all one people 🤗
Bitch please. We've been outstupiding you since 2016 at least.
Is this actual IP ban at ISP level or just the usual dns blocking that can be bypassed with cloudflare dns or something similar
None if the above. It’s a site level for anyone from within the UK.
Oh is see it is the porn site itself blocking the uk visitors, not the uk govt doing fancy blocking. Why people keep posting paywalled shit, i can't read
Oh is see it is the porn site itself blocking the uk visitors
Sure. A little more to it than that though.
AFAIK the UK most likely said "this content is illegal, if you don't remove it, we'll go all Kim Dotcom on your ass" and it's entirely up to the website operator how they want to respond to that. They could fight it like Kim did... might not end well though.
Any large website with user uploaded content receives notices like that routinely (including Lemmy) and most of them respond by deleting the content itself, because it's usually pretty nasty shit or else it wouldn't have got the feds attention. It's treated the same as malware/spam/etc.
For whatever reason, these ones chose to take the entire website offline if necessary.
I am just wondering if they are referring to citivai, which tries really hard to be seen as an art and base model/lora site.
AI generated images aren't "deep fakes". Deep fakes came out a long time before image gen did. You take an existing movie and swap out just the face.
Porn fakes are old news, yes - but what the post you replied to is talking about is "deep learning" (remember that, before the great deluge of "AI"?) fakes, which to some extent either uses generative networks to swap out or alter the face/body, or straight up generate simulacra graphics/video, as opposed to a human doing for the most part comparatively bad hack jobs with multiple sources as in the past.
Nah, the site you're referring to still works from the UK.
i think its mrdeepfakes.but it has too many fake web addresses.and dont know which one is real.
4Chan's deepfake communities are driven by the potential to offend people. Each other, mostly, but offending celebrities, officials and VIPs is worth big digits.
The fappening (famous people getting private pictures leaked to the internet public) was only escalated by threats of state action.
The alt-right thrives on being noticed and hated.
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