How can it be that people don't realize how badly faked this is and what position it is trying to sneak through?
You mean you don't believe that Hostile architecture exists? Or are you just saying that this specific example doesn't?
This specific example is badly photoshopped
That's not really the point, though.
Edit to elaborate: Whether or not this specific one is real, it perfectly illustrates the hypocrisy of trans ally neoliberals who persecute and punish unhoused people for existing near them.
If there were so many examples of this in the real world, then you wouldn’t need to photoshop one.
Again, it's an illustration of the hypocrisy. It doesn't need to literally exist as a physical object in order to make the point.
It's a fabrication of a hypocrisy. If the hypocrisy is real, you wouldn’t need to fabricate it.
get fucked with that bullshit. trans allies aren't out there persecuting anyone. jfc, where do you come up with this bullshit?
I mean that someone saw hostile architecture and then decided to photoshop a trans flag over it for political reasons.
We, as strangers, will never know their exact motivation, but I think if their idea was a message regarding the unfair treatment of economically disadvantaged people or neoliberal hypocrisy, there would be much better ways to communicate the issue, that don't involve something that can easily be construed as anti-trans messaging.
It's a bit vibes based, but you know.... people ain't robots, and even if that wasn't the original intent, that's how the message comes across. And I'd rather have a better, more poignant statement that's worth repeating, rather than this, perhaps unintentionally, bad one.
Especially because people will take this at face value and there are more photoshopped images just like this, making the whole thing a bit sussy, imo.
Yeah, that's not a reasonable interpretation. Intersectionality and criticism of lack of same is by far the most likely intent behind this picture.
Pretending otherwise kinda seems like grasping at straws to avoid addressing the shortcomings of your favorite neoliberals.
My "favorite neoliberal"?
I'm an entire person, not a single-sided strawman. I edited my reply to also state that I think neolibs suck too, if that helps to unflatten my thoughts on this a bit. And because I think they do.
I'd also like to add that I've seen this image and others like it posted in anti-progressive groups by anti-progressive people, instilling exactly the message I explained earlier. Which is why I say the message either isn't clear, or just bad.
I don't feel like I'm "gasping at straws". I feel my argument is somewhat reasonable and I hope my point is a little clearer now.
I have to go back to work now.
I still believe that your interpretation is unreasonable and mine is much more likely regardless of your anecdotal experience in anti-progressive groups, but I apologize for unfairly assuming bad intent on your part. Have a nice day!
Thanks, you too!
You’re at the top of my comment chain, so I’m replying to agree with you and take this further.
Whoever photoshopped this and the other one with the park bench that’s floating around is trying to pit liberals against each other by making it seem like fighting for trans rights and fighting to house the unhoused are opposed to each other.
For anyone reading this, don’t fall for it.
Sure, except I'm in California where it is two very different fights. Try reversing any LGBTQ Rights and you'll get tarred and feathered. Suggest the Homeless shouldn't be hunted in the streets and you also get tarred and feathered.
It's like living in reverse land where instead of "fiscal responsibility" and "traditional social values"; we have "fiscal responsibility" and "progressive social values".
I mean I think it's just meant to be a shitpost
A society's greatness can only be measured by how they treat their most vulnerable citizens.
You mean the worse they treat them the greater the greatness, right? Like Sparta, right bro?
Nice, anti homeless and anti disabled all at once (lack of streetside seating makes getting around challenging for mobility limited people)
And right below a "no human is illegal" poster
Great! If the spikes weren't inclusive trans people might feel excluded from the ban of sleeping on them
/s
We fell in love in a homeless place... We fell in love in a hooOoomless plaaace...
LGBT identity is being exploited by assholes
insert BMW Nazi logo beside the BMW trans logo
My trans homies and I would probably throw a brick through that window... just saying.
Okay, in reality we'd talk to the owner first and explain why this is shitty behavior. The brick is plan B.
You think they don't know? This is Photoshop, but the point would have been the meme.
This concept is liberalism at its finest
Specifically the NIMBYest of NIMBY "the solution is to fund the police" neoliberalism. 🖕
Is this one real at least? Because that's a great concrete example of the kind of hypocrisy the op is alluding to
Because it's quite likely that the people who run the store also own the building or something?
Not a chance. This building (and the windowsill and spike strip) are owned by some real estate company and the shop owner (who owns the sticker) is a renter.
Be pissed off at the wealthy elite that's shooing off the homeless, not the shop owner. Totally different people.
This doesn't even have anything to do with homeless people. Homeless people don't sleep on a window sill.
I personally know a few places in my city where people have resorted to putting spikes on their window sills like that. It has everything to do with anti-social people who think someone else's window sill is a perfectly good place to sit around all night, make noise, drink alcohol, do drugs, leave their garbage, damage the property, ...
The spikes are put there out of desperation when talking to people and talking to the police hasn't helped.
Not to interrupt your hate parade against the wealthy, fully on board with that, but most store owners also absolutely hate homeless people around their stores. For somewhat understandable reasons but still.
I mean the reason is that most people will be a bit sketched out by homeless people hanging around your establishment. I've run into quite a few homeless people when living in the city and more times than not they are pretty sketchy individuals, not all but most.
Defeated by 2" x 4"'s.
This is California in a nut shell.
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