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Signal’s founder warns Ukrainians about using Telegram. Here’s why (www.fastcompany.com)

submitted 5 months ago by Beaver@lemmy.ca to c/ukraine@sopuli.xyz

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[-] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 11 points 5 months ago

Here is where I gave up reading lol

[-] missphant 13 points 5 months ago

WhatsApp does use that same Signal protocol for its messages but that's very poor writing considering all the tracked metadata arguably makes it just as insecure as Telegram.

[-] Zorsith 14 points 5 months ago

Ownership by Facebook renders WhatsApp inherently untrustworthy.

[-] Yearly1845@reddthat.com 5 points 5 months ago

So the Hunter Biden case is a complete farce but I found it alarming that they were proving WhatsApp messages as evidence during the trial. Clearly the messages aren't encrypted against Meta, or they hold keys users don't know about or they wouldn't be able to furnish messages.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

Or possibly a user's phone who was a party to the Whatsapp conversation was collected as evidence and unlocked by the user.

[-] Yearly1845@reddthat.com 4 points 5 months ago

Good point, had not considered that.

[-] Dayroom7485@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

I might be missing the point, but isn’t this a decently dumbed-down description of the difference between services that are end-to-end encrypted and those that are not?