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In case anyone wasn't aware, the 'trouble' many of these 'troubled adolescents' get themselves into is having a boyfriend or girlfriend that's the same gender they are. Or, worse, saying their gender is not the one assigned to them at birth!
Often it's those, and they're heartbreaking. Sometimes it's "just" het-cis relationships the parents don't like. Sometimes it's "Drinking While Evangelical" or other garden variety youthful rebellion. Sometimes it's depression. Sometimes it's just literally wicked stepparents. The overriding connection is always that they don't need to be there and even if they have issues (and to be clear being LGBTQ+ is not a behavioral problem), the so-called solution will be much worse than the problem.
https://theconversation.com/the-program-netflix-show-exposes-the-dark-side-of-americas-troubled-teens-schools-225399
https://elan.school/rude-awakening/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeFWCzLNCmY
https://screenrant.com/the-program-netflix-documentary-details-events-missing/ (get your adblockers up for Screen Rant)
Folks, read that link there to elan.school. It's heart wrenching.
No thanks ive already watched a documentary on it and dont feel like bouncing between impotent bezerk furry and helplessness.
At your recommendation (with your post being 9 hours old - the thing is really long) I read the whole thing start to finish, and just finished. It’s been a hard (emotionally) read and I’ve had a headache since I started it, but it was worth it, and I’m glad the dude is doing at least passably well in life, all things considered.
And at the end when he mentions he was sent in 98 at just past 16.. I was sent to a military boarding school at almost 14 in 00, essentially for having adhd, mild autism, and a single parent who swung between negligence and authoritarianism, and I’m just really lucky my mom found one of the less bad places. A legitimate school that was only a bit abusive (but really not a super appropriate environment for most children either way). Because I could have met that person in hell if things had played out a bit differently. And that’s a really sobering thought. I’m glad I didn’t have it until the end.
First, here's a small story: I had to read Elie Wiesel's Night in high school. I got a lot out of reading it over two weeks or so in AP English. I gave my copy to Mom, who's a big reader, and warned her to take her time as it's painful to read. The next morning she tells me "I read the whole thing last night, then I couldn't sleep, and now I can't stop crying." Mom, I warned you 😓
Even with my very sheltered life, or perhaps because of it, I have found I need to space these kinds of stories out so that I don't get overwhelmed. I think elan.school it took me 3 weeks to get caught up and then he finished the series over just a few weeks.
I'm sorry you went through so much as a kid, yourself. You and Joe are both around the same age as me, too. I hope reading elan.school helps you in some way with your own journey. I'm glad you found it worth the investment of your time.
elan.school is a fucking trip.
I read up to when he finally got released back when that was current, and havent caught up since
or they didn't sit there and quietly accept abuse
or tried to run away and got caught (and/or were found out before they even had a chance)
Or their parents don't like their friend group (not uncommon amongst the more hardline religious families)
There's probably plenty more I've forgotten since leaving reddit. The whole system is fucked and the "camps" shouldn't be legal.
The OTHER fun one is what I recall being referred to as "gooning", where the parents arrange for the kid to be picked up in the middle of the night, put in a vehicle, and driven to the camp. SOMEHOW that is legal and not human trafficking.
Gooning is something unrelated. The term you’re looking for is called “kidnapping”.
I'm aware of that definition. But it was also a term used on reddit by r/troubledteens for this specific circumstance. Going off the phrase "hired goons"
Which can also be called gooning.
If you read the article, depression, ADHD, and autism are also reasons children get sent there for some reason.
I’ve been told countless times how my depression is akshually a demonic possession
So make a list of those people and never put any trust in them. They are people you can be polite to and not invest any time in.
Camps where they futility try to discipline those disorders out of the kids. I checked on one for my son one time and after reading through the lines and lines of bullshit they threw at me decided it was a bad idea. That camp got shut down in 2012 after losing a lawsuit with one of their victims.
I was not talking about this specific camp, but just because that's their claim doesn't mean it's true.
Also, why do they have depression? Why is their behavior supposedly unruly?