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I'd be interested to hear people's thoughts about Signal and DeltaChat for messaging
Signal and DeltaChat, as well as Simplex and some others e2e communication solutions, are adequate from a technical point of view.
The main issue is always adoption. You can have the most convenient way to safely communicate with people, it'll be useless if nobody you're talking to wants to use it.
So, since Signal is very easy to set up and use as well as the most adopted, it's currently the best pick for regular conversations.
Signal good, I've never heard of Deltachat
Been using Deltachat for about a year, so far so good. I dunno how secure it really is (never took the time to check) but it's been reliable. Multi-device was kinda quirky at first but has gotten better.
I said Signal, meant to say Sessions
Signal is fine for a drop-in WhatsApp replacement. I use it for chatting to my friends casually. For something you need more security for you could do encrypted emails as that doesn't require exchanging phone numbers, or ideally just arrange to meet up in-person and discuss things so you don't leave any kind of digital or paper trail.
Yes, meet up, place your phones on the table, and discuss 👍 Facebook ads won't change at all 😉
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Obviously you don't have your phones on you. Otherwise what's the point of meeting up in person.
You don't use your phone outside of the house? I must be the only one then. My bad.
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Not if I don't need to, like if I need to have a conversation with someone that doesn't need to be overheard. In any case turning your phone off and putting it in a faraday bag then putting it somewhere relatively noiseproof should be more than enough if you need to bring your phone with you.
Sounds like something everyone does for sure. When I sit in public transport or go out to eat, nobody has their phone one them, and if they ever do, it's safely tucked away in a faraday cage 👍
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Most people are not privacy-conscious. I don't get what your problem is. If you won't do something just because the majority of people don't, then why are you on !privacy@lemmy.ml? Go back to Facebook and Twitter and Google then
Signal is pretty broken. A chat app shouldn’t require a SIM card & an iOS/Android device just to create & maintain an account (too bad Linux or KaiOS users or folks that otherwise don’t want a smart phone). Multi-devdice setups seem to have issues. The desktop app being Electron is a waste of resources. They still don’t want to support UnifiedPush while highly encouraging you download the app from the Google Play Store & send notification data thru Google-controlled FSM. There’s also the missing history of the server code which is probably has something to do with US intelligence injecting code.
Is it better than a lot of things, sure, but it should be put on a pedestal nor seen as exemplary for private chat in UI or philosophy.
Deltachat is a clever idea that I wish it became more widespread.