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On Friday, the globe hit 2 degrees Celsius (3.6 degrees) above pre-industrial levels for the first time in recorded history

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[-] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Planes are kinda necessary now and less of a convenience. I moved to Miami from NJ (where the rest of my family lives) and just came home today for Thanksgiving. Driving would have taken around 3 days/about 23 hours of total driving and cost a few hundred bucks in gas and maintenance costs. I flew home in under 3 hours and it cost me about $100.

My buddy in NJ married a British woman, so for her, if planes didn't exist her only option would be to take a boat home which easily takes a week or two, instead it takes her about 7 hours.

[-] FarceOfWill@infosec.pub 17 points 11 months ago

The other option is to not expect to see people who live a plane flight away every year.

[-] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

So you're supposed to lessen your relationships just because you moved away?

[-] FatCrab@lemmy.one 7 points 11 months ago

We live in an age where you can literally talk face to face with virtually anyone, nearly anywhere in the world on a tiny rectangle in your pocket. Yes, we can all afford to travel a little less over long distances.

[-] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Not everyone has a smartphone or webcam, you, right? My father is 73 and has neither, he doesn't like to videochat because he feels it impersonal. My mom has a smartphone but doesn't video chat with anyone. So I'm just supposed to not see my parents for a year or more because they don't want to video chat?

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Yes, that's how normal people live. Or, you know, HAVE FUCKING TRAINS.

[-] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

What you consider "normal" isn't exactly normal. This isn't the 1800s.

Umm you know that trains take energy to run right? The energy doesn't come out of thin air. Most trains either run off diesel fuel which is dirty as hell or they run off electric and that energy is usually from burning fossil fuels.

So your suggestion is "don't use this one method of transportation that burns fossil fuels, use this other method of transportation that takes longer and still burns fossil fuels!"

Really great argument you have there! 🤦‍♂️

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

What you consider “normal” isn’t exactly normal.

Your American perspective is only a thin slice of the world. Don't be so conceited.

you know that trains take energy to run right?

Less energy per passenger, and the energy sources available are much more diverse.

run off electric and that energy is usually from burning fossil fuels. [sic]

In ass-backwards places, sure. You know Brazil, that country to the south of yours, with a comparable landmass and population? More than 85% of their electricity comes from renewable sources. I guess 'murica is too much of a shithole to figure this one out.

So your suggestion is “don’t use this one method of transportation that burns fossil fuels, use this other method of transportation that takes longer and still burns fossil fuels!” [sic]

So the implication is that you think the efficiency of a process is meaningless and the path to an outcome is unimportant (which is braindead). You may as well drop dead right now, then, since "you'll still die some day, anyway".

[-] darthfabulous42069@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Planes are ubiquitous to the global north. They're not an American thing.

[-] jose1324@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Or just.. live closer together. You don't see Europeans fly from Germany to the other side just for a few family days

[-] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

So people aren't supposed to move anywhere in your opinion, and if you do,just forget about seeing them for years. The US is a hell of a lot bigger than any European country.

[-] jose1324@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Not that far and still expect to see family for every freaking occasion. I meant through Europe, if I'm Dutch and my family is in Spain, I'm not going for Christmas or whatever. Maybe once in a few years, or stay for a vacation not just a few days. That's idiotic.

[-] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Yes, wanting to see your family is idiotic 🙄

[-] jose1324@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Are you being purposefully obtuse?

[-] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

My parents are getting older and I want to see them as much as I can while still living where I want to. IMO its ridiculous to be like "live in a place you don't like because you want to see your family often or live where you want to and rarely see your family." There is a middle ground. Yo may be cool with seeing your family once a year, I'm not.

[-] jose1324@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I'm not either, that's why I live closer

[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago
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