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[-] cupcakezealot 28 points 1 year ago

nobody is pro Hamas, the problem is they're saying that being pro palestine is being pro hamas

[-] qnick@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Try to create a pro-Russian post now, and then explain in the comments that it's not pro-Kremlin.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, that's fucked up too. People seem unable and unwilling to seperate innocent civilians from atrocious leaders.

This is what happens when you allow corporations and demagogues to take over both politics and media 😮‍💨

[-] qnick@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Context matters. If you post something pro-Russian and against the Kremlin in 2020, some people might understand you. But if you do it a week after Bucha, don't expect any support.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah because you're not allowed to distinguish between innocent civilians and the government they have no power to topple unless you time it juuuuust right 🙄

Fuck that. There's never a bad time for speaking up for innocent victims of violence and oppression while condemning the powerful people that kill and oppress them.

[-] qnick@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

My point is: no matter what was the goal of protesters, these protests benefit Hamas. Therefore people participating in it are perceived as pro-Hamas.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

They don't benefit Hamas, though. The goal of the protests is an end to immediate hostilities and in the long term a peaceful resolution to the overall conflict.

Both would be ruinous to Hamas and the Israeli war hawks while being beneficial to all of the innocent civilians.

[-] cupcakezealot 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the russian people - much like the people in gaza - aren't the people fighting the war

it's why sanctions never work because they're always passed on to the most vulnerable

it's also the same thing they do every war like during iraq when they said if you're against the war you're worth the terrorists/saddam.

he's not the first to do it but bush definitely set the narrative in the media

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Pro citizenry posts are almost never controversial. If you're getting a lot of blowback you may be doing it wrong. Pro fascist government posts, however, will rightly get a lot of pushback if you don't differentiate. It is uncontroversial to support the Russian people, the American people, the Israeli people, the Palestinian people, etc.

[-] DontJumpOffBoats@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

nobody is pro Hamas Lol

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