887

Posted on Reddit

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago

I think he's an incredibly good con man. He puts kindness in his voice and acts like a father figure to poor, abused lost souls and others that think he's on their side in the grift. He also hires really smart people to do his dirty work. There are a lot of mob bosses that are similar. His follower believes in him even though he's thrown so many people under the bus, because "I'm not as stupid as they are, right?"

[-] tfm@europe.pub 35 points 3 days ago

No he is a dumb shit. As his minions are. He's just getting votes because of his extreme populist strategy and wealth (this dumbfuck is still a fucking billionaire and this definitely plays a big role). Most people are just politically illiterate.

I mean would you ever buy something from him personally?

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Unfortunately, yes. When he speaks, he uses hypnosis techniques and he truly has no morals, so I can't hear any deception in his voice. He doesn't believe anything, so he doesn't really lie in his fucked up head. So yeah, when he speaks, I put him on fast so I don't fall for the sing-song voice and the vague slowness of his speech.

I wish I could find the person's video that was on reddit from his first term. She explained how cult leaders do it and he does it to a tee. It was super old, like from the 60s or 70s, but she could have been talking about trump.

Edit: I fucking found it! I can't believe how many times I looked for this video. Ironically, I have it at 2x speed and I still understand what she's saying. You can watch the entire thing or start at around 23 minutes or so to get the trump effect. Here we go folks.

Transcript of portion:

In order to hypnotize someone you don't have to do like stage magicians of swing watches or have a person look at the Eraser on a pencil or stare at a spot on the wall. You can do it by controlling your voice by doing as I'm doing now. Get it a bit more sing songy and chanty and you can watch people's breathing and pace your phrasing so that you can start cooling them down and getting them into a light trance.

And then, most trance induction that's used by various cults, then utilizes guided imagery in which the speaker appears to be telling a parable, repeating a verse over and over again, telling a story of his childhood in a soothing rhythmic way, in order to get the person into a trance state.

Why would a cult leader want to get a person tranced out a bit. What hypnosis and trance induction does, is it gets your attention and my attention highly, highly focused so we don't have critical thoughts. We don't judge what we're doing. We just trust the person that's giving the visual imagery and the relationship, and it makes us much more malleable and suggestible in that state.

So that, once the leader gets us into a light trance, then the speech, the sermon, the message that they put in. has a lot more impact than had they done it without doing the trans induction first. So that's why they do it. It makes us more malleable, more suggestable, and it shuts out that critical mind chatter that we have.

Such as, while you're watching this video, you're asking questions and saying, “I wonder if she means...?”, “I wonder if she's going to get to…?” If you were being tranced out, that kind of questioning, thinking, gets put aside. And you're just listening to the voice, the image. And then, what the words say to you you're much more likely to incorporate into your thinking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bRBFhMEQFk

[-] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 2 points 2 days ago

What's hilarious to me is that so many people I talk to refuse out-of-hand to consider that he's using a hypnotic technique, but also point out themselves about how they're mystified about how he's able to influence so many followers. Not only does the hypnosis hypothesis have a fair amount of scientific and historical support, it's a better explanation than, "It doesn't make any sense!"

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

He's a salesman and these are salesman techniques. I guess calling it hypnosis throws everyone off, but I don't really get why. Putting people in positions to be manipulated seems pretty obvious that that's what he's doing.

[-] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Kindness? Are you deaf, blind and illiterate?

this post was submitted on 21 May 2025
887 points (100.0% liked)

Too Dumb To Imagine

131 readers
5 users here now

So dumb that you couldn't even have imagine it.

founded 2 months ago
MODERATORS