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No. The election results are a blowout, larger than just this subcommunity.
I'm annoyed at Muslims for failing to back Harris and prevent the future atrocities. But I will not blame them. Trump got too many votes in general, and might even win the popular vote.
EDIT: We need a bigger reckoning than just blaming a minority of the minority. I don't want to blame Harris either, she seemed to do the best that she was given but it always was long odds given that she's a Half-Indian Half-Black Woman. (Racism from Whites, Racism from Indians for being a race-traitor, and then sexism from everyone including minorities).
But this is a bigger election loss than "just" a minority failing to show up to vote. We lost the Senate, Presidency, and probably the House.
EDIT: Kamala needed to win PA, WI, and MI. She literally lost all three of them. A large outspoken minority of just one State (MI) is not to blame for the PA or WI losses.
This is bullshit rhetoric. She ran a shit campaign of trying to appease republican voters and cater to the snowflake right wing fear machine by shushing Palestine voices to back genocide directly and trying to sound tougher on immigration and border policy in the face of literal fascist policy campaigns by Trump. This is 100% the fault and failure of the Harris campaign’s strategy and the DNC for being so chicken shit scared of losing that they kept the corpse in chief in the running for too long. Catering to the fascist right policies never works and ignoring insanely popular progressive policy always fails. The beatings will continue until morale improves.
I will say a large swath of the country moved to the right (anti-immigration, anti-trans, etc) and so trying to push progressive values in a time where people believe progressive values are what led to inflation is a losing argument as well that wouldn't have gotten much national support.
There were literal commercials framing Kamala as a villain for having empathy about trans people in prison.
A large swath of the country that wouldn't vote Democrat in a million years. As a Democrat presidential candidate, you straight up don't care about those people. You care about the other half, which moved to the left and includes demographics that have historically responded to leftist messaging.
I agree with you in general but you should be blaming Harris. Have you even been keeping up with her campaign? I couldn't believe that shit and I'm not even American. She managed to squander a massive headstart by... Being Harris.
You can blame lemmy.ml for their strategic manipulation
You can blame us for this application, sure. Having an impact on the results of this election? Unlikely
You're annoyed they didn't back the person providing the weapons to kill their families?
This election loss had nothing to do with her gender or ethnicity. She was a shit candidate that alienated huge chunks of the population.
They took the pistol out of the person's hand that was pointed at them and replaced it with a bazooka. Good job. Very well thought out /s.
How do you not get this?
I voted for Harris, but I also realize that this "They took the pistol out of the person’s hand that was pointed at them and replaced it with a bazooka" is a seriously poor description of Israel and the Gaza conflict in regards to Harris and Trump.
Harris didn't really offer anything substantially better for Palestine than Trump did. Yes, Trump personally wouldn't mind it if Israel just completely bulldozed the entire West Bank and Gaza tomorrow and annexed the whole thing. Harris wouldn't support that. But the real barrier to that kind of full-on ethnic cleansing is not US military support. Even with full US backing, Israel can't do that kind of full-on ethnic cleansing without becoming subject to complete trade embargoes by every country in Europe.
Israel has been physically capable of completely annexing the West Bank and Gaza for decades. They've taken the slow approach to ethnic cleansing - slowly taking territory via zoning building permits - precisely because they need to balance their territorial ambitions with their need for trade with other nations. This is what ultimately restrains them from their worst possible crimes.
Neither Trump nor Kamala would have used US military aid to rein in Israel. Neither would use US military forces to prevent an all-out genocide attempt by Israel. Trump wouldn't oppose an overt Israeli genocide against the Palestinians. But if Israel gets to that point, then they're not going to be thinking about US military aid at that point.
As a practical matter, Trump vs Kamala is a wash for the Palestinians.
You will discover you are very wrong, unfortunately.
But that’s ok because it doesn’t matter now.
Let’s hope for the best.
Your response is coming from the entitlement of not having your entire extended family disappeared.
I'm glad you have that privilege.
Don't murder peoples families and expect their support.
"Yes, we murdered your entire extended family, but we need your help to beat this person we swear would kill your family 110% faster. Never mind the fact that we already killed all of your extended family"
What don't you get about this? You and people like you have zero credibility given what the people you support ALREADY HAVE DONE with the people they've done it to.
"I would do nothing different than Joe Biden"
-- Kamala Harris