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Living it up in Ancient Greece
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As long as you weren’t born a slave i guess.
Statement holds true today as well
Or a woman.
Ancient Greece, generally speaking, hated women
I’m interested in learning the context here.
Because modernity also hates women and I guess I’m ignorant but.. weren’t there options for women then..? Like midwife/doula-type things, herbalist/witch, spinster/seamstress-clothier?
Potentially more than they could have in modern history?
Modern media heavily whitewashes ancient Greece. Women were property, they held virtually no political rights of any kind.
Roman women were marginally better off, but by modern standards they were still in the dumpster.
Ancient Greece was also heavily into boy rape. It was really, really bad.
Remember that "ancient Greece" is our term for an area, rather than a singular nation / empire like Rome.
The area of Greece mainly had Athens and Sparta, and Athens is probably who you're referring to.
But Spartan women weren't that bad off, compared to other places in antiquity.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_ancient_Sparta
We also white wash Spartan history pretty dramatically. Yes, Spartan women who were citizens were better off than their Athenian counterparts. However, that's not saying much when you consider spartan citizens were a fraction of the population of Sparta.
The vast majority of women in Sparta were helots, and were subject to chattel slavery. I don't think you can claim that Spartans cared about gender equality when they had an entire social class made up of the bastards produced by raping their slaves.
Oh yeah, they weren't like democratic utopias, lol.
The point being that Sparta was as shit as anything in history, but they were a bit less discriminatory towards women. Probably because they weren't really as posessive of them as many other cultures. For... some reason.
In ancient Greece the women were for babies and the boys were for fun, so the saying goes.
Ya you're right, there is nuance to the subject.