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[-] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 186 points 1 month ago

Electric buses have a battery from a probably reputable supplier, with a decent BMS.

Escooters often come from AliExpress.

There is a difference.

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Also it's not even a choice. Busses are not mass produced vehicles they're regulated individually made commercial vehicles, and when the bus manufacturers say 'were not building manual transmissions as of X date', that's it. It's not happening anymore. Same with ABS, and now electric, unless you want to start manufacturing busses yourself, it's not gonna be a choice by then.

[-] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 month ago

It's not just that; it's that a regulator signed off on the bus, the city has liability insurance on the bus, and the bus manufacturer will themselves be accredited and insured.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 20 points 1 month ago

It's insane to ban e-bikes though since most of those come from reputable sources who are internationally recognized bike manufacturers. The people who made my electric bike also make professional bicycles for Olympians. Pretty sure the battery is reliable and isn't going to explode.

My bike has fallen into a swimming pool while switched on (don't ask) and nothing happened. Literally it didn't even register anything had happened it just carried it on.

[-] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 21 points 1 month ago

Yours may be fine.

Barry Shitpea's £100 dodgy 2000W temu special may not. And you can't expect a bus driver to inspect every bike to only let reputable brands on.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

My coworker bought one for $500 shipped. I highly doubt that battery has been properly inspected, especially since just buying a battery with similar capacity costs more than that.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

My bike has fallen into a swimming pool while switched on (don't ask)

You're not the boss of me. What happened?

[-] holgersson@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago

The bike felt the battery heating up and wanted to cool down

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

That's why I never buy sapient vehicles. That and the whole "is this slavery?" issue.

[-] holgersson@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

I want my vehicle to be sapient enough to moan when I whip it

[-] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 month ago

The problem is telling the difference between a good bike (noting that even Samsung screwed that up with the Note 7...) and these: https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/fire-brigade-calls-for-e-bike-battery-clampdown-after-london-man-suffers-life-changing-burns

[-] nehal3m@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago

I think it’s worth considering banning that type of battery, but a whole category of vehicles? There could be good reasons to ban the whole category as well but then state that, instead of making up some shit about batteries.

[-] muzzle@lemm.ee 44 points 1 month ago

No one has the time to check every escooter against a long list of battery supplier every time one wants to board.

[-] nehal3m@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

Sure, but you can ban imports and make them illegal to own just like any other thing. You can't prevent all crime but that's no reason not to try.

[-] pupbiru@aussie.zone 33 points 1 month ago

the bus company can not ban imports

[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 4 points 1 month ago

Didn't see them banning powerbank or batteries from powertools, and both also allowed on plane.

[-] zeekaran@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 month ago

Allowed in carry on but not checked bags, for the same reason.

[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 3 points 1 month ago

One is allowed, one is straight out banned.

One is high up in the sky, one is on the land.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

And both of your sentences rhyme.

[-] IncogCyberspaceUser@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

How is it better for those batteries to malfunction in the passenger compartment instead of the storage compartment of the plane? I don't understand that.

[-] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 month ago

Cabin crew on aircraft have fireproof bags and rather effective fire extinguishers. Dealing with a battery in the cargo hold isn't possible.

If you want to carry a battery on an aircraft it generally has to be less than 100 (sometimes 160) watt-hours, whereas e-bike and other batteries are often 10x that.

[-] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 month ago

Aircraft typically have a limit of 100 or 160 watt-hours and require that the battery be separate or the whole device be small (think laptop sized) so that you can dump it in a fireproof bag.

An e-bike has a ~1kWh battery that is probably strapped or zip-tied in place and there's probably no serious firefighting equipment.

[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 1 points 1 month ago

Stop and dump it at the road side?

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