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Your perspective is valid and fair and I won't fault you for holding it but I do think that there is more of a direct link between fascism and capitalism, and I do think liberalism is conducive to it. Socialism is the real opposition to fascism, and to your point there are different kinds of socialism with different degrees of resistance to fascism.
You might be using fascism in a less formal definition and that's valid, but I'd remind you that it's historically pretty linked to capitalism. Or maybe the definition is more broad than I'm giving it credit for, that may be the case.
I'm also a radical. I was describing anarcho-syndicalism. Anarchist flavors of socialism are what I'm personally in favor of, as active resistance to fascism is built in.
I don't really have a quarrel with you, my main thesis was just that capitalism is a huge problem and when it comes to climate change and other imminent dangers I consider it a root problem. We generally agree on that point.
On the point of hating on liberals, I'll concede, that's not important to me.
Both Umberto Eco and Roger Griffin define fascism in terms that do not include capitalism as an integral part of the system. It's not a less formal definition. And historically, it's linked to capitalism only because capitalists in the specific societies fascism arose in had more power to offer the fascist regime than labor organizers when time came to come to the negotiating table. Especially consider the first decade of Mussolini's fascist regime. If union leaders held the power in the country, the only thing that would change is who gets screwed.
Well, not the ONLY thing. But you get what I mean.
Definitely.