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[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 37 points 3 months ago

How I read this poll: 55% of Canadians want a party to the political left of the Conservatives to win.

How our FPTP system reads this poll: 70% of ridings want the Conservatives to win.

[-] Choosenewagain@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

I wish Trudeau had kept his promise for election reform, would come in handy for the party now!

[-] pedz@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

Easy. He just has to open the constitution to make those reforms. Nothing bad ever happens when we try to change the constitution. All the provinces always agree and there is definitely no lingering constitutional issues that we haven't been able to resolve in more than four decades.

He shouldn't have made that promise. He should have been aware that electoral reforms would need to change the constitution and that every time we try do that, the country nearly implodes. So we just keep status quo until the constitutional crisis will be big enough that we can't ignore it anymore. I don't know what he was thinking. Maybe he thought we would all forget about it.

[-] tleb@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 months ago

I hate this mentality of bucketing Liberals and NDP together. They're different parties with different policies, and one of the main benefits of PR is that leftists don't have to compromise our values and vote Liberal just to prevent Conservatives from winning. Treating it like left vs right just pushes us towards the Democrat vs Republican in the US.

[-] Strykker@programming.dev 16 points 3 months ago

Ah fuck off. People voting for both liberal or NDP would prefer either one to win over the conservatives any day of the week.

[-] tleb@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago

That's probably true for NDP voters (i.e. they'd rather have a Liberal government than CPC), but I don't think it's true that Liberal voters would rather have NDP than Conservative.

We're both just speculating though, there's probably some actual info on this from people studying ranked ballots

[-] nik282000@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 months ago

Treating it like left vs right just pushes us towards the Democrat vs Republican in the US.

Anything the US does Canada does just a little later.

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