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Dolly Parton is working “9 to 5” on her forthcoming Broadway musical. While speaking with PEOPLE about her new line of baking mixes with Duncan Hines, the country music legend, 78, shared an update about the highly anticipated Broadway musical about her life and career.

The superstar says that not only has it long been a dream of hers to tell her story with a stage production, she teased that aspiring actors may get their shot to play her by entering a talent search.

“Right now, I'm working on my life story as a musical, and so going on Broadway and opening my show on Broadway, that's been a biggie [goal] in my mind for many, many years,” the Grammy winner says. “That'd be the one that I want to make certain I get done while I'm still kicking, while I'm around to stay involved in it.”

Parton shares that she’s hoping to see that dream come true by "late '25." In order to get the project — which she wrote the music and half of the script for — to New York City, the music icon reveals that she may even host a “Finding Dolly” contest.

It won’t just be one Dolly under the bright lights of Broadway: The “Jolene” singer says she expects there to be three performers playing her at different phases of her life, including a “little Dolly,” an “earlier years Dolly” and “an older Dolly.”

“We're going to be auditioning and trying to find them through different means,” Parton shares. “I think that'll be fun for people, too. You never know where you're going to find them. They may never have been on stage before, or maybe in some local theater somewhere, but we're going to look for them and that's going to be part of the fun, I think.”

The “I Will Always Love You” artist has been teasing the stage show, which chronicles her humble beginnings growing up in Tennessee to the superstardom she’s found across entertainment, for several years.

Back in 2016, the singer-songwriter mentioned that she was working on a Broadway musical in an interview with Variety when discussing the genesis for her NBC TV movie Coat of Many Colors. She revealed at the time that the project, inspired by the song of the same name and her childhood, was developed as she began revisiting her youth while chipping away on the material for a theater script.

Parton said of the musical she had been working on, “The whole first act is my early days before I went to Nashville. The second act is about my days in Nashville and beyond. So the first part of the musical will be a lot like Coat of Many Colors with music and songs and will involve more details.”

More recently, the hitmaker told USA Today in an October 2023 interview that the pandemic led to the musical’s delay. “I was just about to have it ready when COVID hit and Broadway shut down. Then I thought, “Well, maybe I’ll do it as a biopic,” and wrote up a script for that. But then I was like, “Nah, everybody’s doing a biopic! I’m going back to Broadway now that it’s open,” she told the outlet.

The musician added, “So I’m hoping to have my show [there] in spring of 2025. That’s my aim!"

The currently-untitled musical won’t be Parton’s first time headed to Broadway. She previously wrote the score to a stage musical adaptation of the feature film inspired by her hit, 9 to 5. After debuting in 2008, the production made its debut in the Big Apple in 2009 and garnered her a Tony Award nomination for best original score.

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Hats off to “Gutenberg! The Musical!” The Broadway show, starring Josh Gad and Andrew Rannells (whose characters wear dozens of caps) as they reunited 12 years after “The Book of Mormon,” has recouped its initial investment of $6.75 million. During the show’s 20-week run, “Gutenberg” generated plenty of buzz and became one of the rare new productions to break through to audiences during post-pandemic times.

First conceived at the Upright Citizens Brigade and later produced Off Broadway, “Gutenberg” follows two theater composers who attempt to attract potential investors for a musical about Johannes Gutenberg, creator of the printing press. The only caveat: they know almost nothing about Gutenberg beyond a quick Google search. Clips from the show-within-a-show often went viral on TikTok thanks to surprise appearances from “guest producers” including Hillary Clinton, Steve Martin and Martin Short, Lin-Manuel Miranda, Anne Hathaway and Anna Wintour, Will Ferrell and Audra McDonald, who (spoiler alert!) present the main characters with official Broadway contracts to back their wacky endeavor.

“Gutenberg” concluded its limited run on Jan. 28. In its final week, the show set a box office benchmark at the James Earl Jones Theatre with $1.463 million. It broke its own record from the week of Dec. 31, 2023 when “Gutenberg” grossed $1.28 million. Rannells and Gad have recorded a cast album, which will be available in the spring.

Alex Timbers, who helmed the original Off Broadway show, directed “Gutenberg,” as well as “Beetlejuice” and “Here Lies Love.” The design team includes Scott Pask (scenic design), Emily Rebholz (costume design), Jeff Croiter (lighting design), M.L. Dogg & Cody Spencer (sound design), T.O. Sterrett (music supervision, arrangements and orchestrations), Marco Paguia (music director), Liz Caplan (vocal supervision), C12 Casting (casting director) and Rachel Sterner (production stage manager).

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Opera Australia and GWB Entertainment announced the performers who will join Sarah Brightman in the Australian production of Sunset Boulevard.

Joining Brightman are Tim Draxl as Joe Gillis, Robert Grubb as Max Von Mayerling, Ashleigh Rubenach as Betty Schaefer, Jarrod Draper as Artie Green and Paul Hanlon as Cecil B. DeMille.

Silvie Paladino will play Norma Desmond on Tuesday evenings and Wednesday matinees.

The full cast is here.

The Australian production will be directed by Paul Warwick Griffin with set and costume design by Morgan Large, choreography by Ashley Wallen, and musical supervision by Kristen Blodgette.

The show opens in Melbourne in May 2024 before transferring to Sydney in August 2024.

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Words cannot express how much I endorse this article, especially the bit about... well, you'll know when you run across it.

Attending a Broadway show is a unique experience, but it's important to remember that it's not just about the actors and the production—it's also about being a courteous audience member. Your behavior can significantly impact the enjoyment of the show for both yourself and those around you.

Below, check out some tips to ensure you are the best possible audience member when attending a Broadway show.

Arrive early

One of the most basic yet crucial tips for being a courteous audience member is arriving at the theater on time. Most Broadway shows will begin about five minutes after their scheduled time, but you don't want to risk getting there at the last moment and missing the start of the show. Some productions do not even allow late seating, meaning if you arrive after the show begins, you won't be allowed in.

Instead, aim to arrive about 20 minutes before the start of the show, giving you time to get into the theatre, hit the restroom and/or bar if you need it, and situate yourself in your seat. If you require extra time, note that most shows will open their doors to the audience around 45 minutes before showtime.

Allow other guest to their seats

If your seat is on the aisle and you arrive to the theatre early, expect that other guests will need to enter your row before the start of the show. When this happens, simply rise and step back into your folded seat to allow them to pass in front of you, or step into the aisle if room is available and that is more convenient to you. This is bound to happen more than once during your trip to the theatre, so try your best to be respectful of your neighbors as they arrive.

That said- if you are sitting in the middle of a row, do your best to be courteous of the people who accomodated you to get to your seat, ie: limit your activity in and out of your row to what is absolutely necessary.

Handle latecomers gracefully

If you find yourself seated next to latecomers, be courteous and make room for them to pass. Avoid making disapproving comments or giving them dirty looks. Remember that everyone makes mistakes, and it's best to handle such situations with grace and understanding.

Be mindful of personal space

A sold-out show can be quite crowded and some theatre seats can be quite small. It's essential to be aware of your personal space and respect the personal space of others. Avoid spreading out your arms and legs beyond your assigned area and do not kick the seat of the person in front of you.

You should generally avoid bringing large bags to the theatre. Be sure that your personal belongings are few/small enough to be tucked under your legs or chair. Do not hang your coat off of the chair infront of you nor behind your own chair as both interfere with the limited space of those around you. If you are uncomfortable leaving your coat on or resting it on your lap, consider taking advantage of coat check when available.

Additionally do not place any parts of your body or personal items in the aisle, on a ledge (if you are near one), or on the front of the stage, as all can be dangerous for the actors and theatre personnel.

Silence Your Devices

...or better yet, just turn them off altogther. If you can't do that, absolutely set your device to Silent or Do Not Disturb. You don't want to be the person who ruins an important moment for everyone else. Furthermore...

Do not take calls during a Broadway show.

Do not text during a Broadway show.

Do not check your email during a Broadway show.

Do not scroll through Instagram during a Broadway show.

Do not photograph or record a Broadway show.

Anytime your phone screen lights up in a dark theatre, it disturbs the viewing experience of the people around you and affects the concentration of the actors onstage.

After a show has begun, DO NOT USE YOUR PHONE. After intermission concludes, DO NOT USE YOUR PHONE.

Stay quiet

Whispering, talking, or commenting during the performance is not okay.

Any noise outside of the action of the show is incredibly distracting to those around you and disrespectful to the actors on stage. Save your discussions and comments for intermission or after the show.

Broadway shows are not sing-alongs. Unlike concert experiences, audiences are not welcome to sing with the actors, however temping it may be. Instead, sing along to cast recording on your way home.

If you purchased snacks or candies at the consession stand before the show or during intermission, do your best to unwrap them before the show begins to avoid disrupting the experience of those around you.

Remain in your seat

Barring emergencies, do you best to remain in your seat until intermission or the end of the show. Make sure to visit the restroom before the show starts. Planning ahead ensures you won't miss any crucial moments and neither will the people around you.

Respond appropriately

Applause is a way to show appreciation for the performers, but it's essential to do so at the right moments. In most cases, applause is appropriate at the end of a song, scene, or act, and at the conclusion of the entire show. Avoid clapping or cheering during quiet or dramatic moments that require the audience and actors' full attention.

Also, encourage your children to do the same and help to educate the next generation of courteous theatre-goers.

At the end of the performance, go wild and cheer as loudly as you please. If you truly enjoyed the show, consider standing ovations to express your admiration for the cast and crew's hard work.

No you're a pro! Go off and be the best Broadway audience member you can be!

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BrodwayWorld sat down with Andy Karl to find out all about him living his own personal 'Groundhog Day' down under in Melbourne, the musical's Broadway run, and more. Karl returns to the role after originating the role in London (and returning to it once more last year) and on Broadway.

What about this role and show keeps drawing you back?

That question has a multitude of answers. Firstly, it is the greatest script, score and philosophical idea I have ever worked on. Secondly, I’m highly aware of the irony of repeating a role of a character that is repeating the same day over and over in a production that is repeating itself and to me that is the greatest bit of meta-comedy I am sustaining. Third, I feel like Groundhog Day really has something to say about the big questions in life. This is a piece of theatre that has a strong statement about living life, the acceptance of death, love, respect and the profound strength derived from the people around you. All of which bubbles with comedy and theatre magic.

Do you ever feel like you’re living your own Groundhog Day moment doing this show?

Absolutely. It’s by choice, which is very different from being trapped in a time loop like Phil Conners. I’m definitely experiencing wild parallels to the show, and have for years. It does hit me quite hard when I say certain lines that comment on the endless repetition. But what’s such a thrill to me is the intensity of living a full character and story within the 2 1⁄2 hours on stage. I always feel truly satisfied at the end of each performance

Those who saw the show on Broadway were quickly charmed by this incredibly unique show. Tim Minchin in a recent interview gave his thoughts on why the show might not have found an audience on Broadway after being a huge hit abroad. Have you found audiences receive the show differently outside the US?

I think those who have seen the show anywhere have responded so well to it. The Broadway run was an unfortunate set of circumstances that led to it having the MOST incredible reviews and accolades I’ve ever seen but not striking gold at the box office. I’ve seen lesser shows with absurd plot lines have extensive runs on Broadway so nothing is certain and art is subjective. What I know to be true is that Groundhog Day is a work of art. An elevation of original source material and a rich tapestry of comedy, philosophy, staging and theatre at a high concept with absolute accessibility. It is meant for everyone and every town that has a theatre.

The production is incredibly physical... How do you prepare for getting back into an arduous show schedule?

Gym, yoga, caffeine, water, food, vocal warm up and unwavering determination to give audiences a really good time.

What’s it like mounting the show with an entirely new company?

I enjoy it so much. There is nothing like seeing a new cast work so hard on something that they don’t entirely understand it’s power until it all comes together. The repetition is monotonous and tricky. I watch their eyes light up when they finally see the sum of all its parts make Groundhog Day the special show it is. My brain also has fun seeing new faces in the same costumes and feeling like I’m living some Marvel multi-verse movie

What’s one moment you look forward to each night on stage?

There are many. One that is significant to me is singing Tim Minchin’s song “Seeing You” near the end of the show. It begins as a soliloquy as Phil is describing his incredible appreciation of being in this present moment that he never expected but highly aware of his calm gratitude for living here and now. It’s become a moment for me personally to expose my absolute open gratitude for every person in the theatre. I’ve never had such a moment before and I cherish it deeply every show.

Is there anything you’re particularly excited to do off-stage in Melbourne?

I already did a bucket list item and saw Djokavic play at the Australian Open. What an absolutely legendary tennis player in an absolutely legendary arena. Next, I may see some Koalas and Kangaroos. I’m a simple tourist.

Why must audiences come and catch Groundhog Day down under?

Tim Minchin’s incredible score, Danny Rubin's hilarious profound story, Mathew Warchus’s sublime direction, Rob Howells marvellous set, Lizzie Gee’s exuberant choreography, a cast of the most talented people Australia has to offer and GWB’s dedication to this amazing work of art. Also come see me have an existential performance that at some point in the show will hit me like a ton of bricks and internally freak me out while maintaining a meta-physical repetitive 4th dimensional tour de force. Basically, I’m just saying I know my lines and I love what I get to do.

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Of all the films on IMDB's list of the 1000 highest-grossing movies of all time, 31 have been adapted into Broadway musicals.

Check out a guide to each those musicals, along with musicals that are in development or ones that have not yet made their way to Broadway.

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This daffy musical about racing trains inspired countless stage careers, including my own. A child’s imagination made real, it is a perfect introduction to theatre.

The light at the end of the tunnel shines again this summer as Andrew Lloyd Webber’s Starlight Express returns to London. The original production closed in 2002 after almost 18 years, making it the West End’s ninth longest-running show. For me it was the gateway to a love of theatre and performing which has never left – and also means I can’t visit Pizza Express without humming the title track. Here’s why we should hail the musical’s return …

It’s the original piece of immersive theatre

In 1984 this was as immersive as it got: a theatre turned into a racetrack. When the show takes over the huge Troubadour in Wembley Park it’s bound to be even more spectacular. Seating charts with “first-class carriage” and “trackside” options have given an idea of how close audiences will get to the racetrack as the cast of 40 quadruple threats (acting, singing, dancing – and skating) whiz past, leaving you with the wind in your hair and a whiff of deodorant in your nose.

Glorious joyous nonsense

The concept of Starlight sounds like screwball ramblings: “A child’s train set comes to life and they race to be the fastest. Chuck in love story between steam train Rusty and first-class carriage Pearl. His rival, Greaseball, will be a sendup of Elvis. Everything about Electra will strongly suggest he’s bisexual – let’s call his first song AC/DC.” But oh boy, is it fun. New director Luke Sheppard showed us with & Juliet that he knows how to do fun on stage and hopefully will do so on tracks, too.

It will get kids into the theatre

Lloyd Webber said he conceived the show as an entertainment event for children who love trains. The whole show is a child’s imagination made real and Starlight has always been the perfect family-friendly entry point to the magic of live theatre for tiny humans. You would not believe how many people on stage and behind the scenes are there because they saw singing steam trains when they were young. The show transports families into a world of high-energy escapism, and never has that been more needed.
The new crew are champs

Original choreographer Arlene Philips has turned creative dramaturg alongside a new team. Tim Hatley’s design for Back to the Future made a musical feel like a film, Andrzej Goulding’s Life of Pi video turned a theatre into an ocean and Gabriella Slade’s costumes crowned the Six queens. I’m excited to see the man who taught me to shuffle ball change when I did panto, choreographer Ashley Nottingham, have better success with actual professionals.

It’s still a mystery

Who knows what this version will be like? A key plot point (spoiler alert!) is diesel being better than electric. Cue Tesla owners revolting. Perhaps there will be a Hogwarts Express crossover? At least the jokes about British trains being late will still be relevant. The new production will be updated and refreshed for a new generation. It’s already a rework of a rework after it was revised in the 90s and again in Germany, where it has run since 1988 and where the British train is now named Brexit. But the music is pure nostalgia and the synth beats will be banging for Starlight Express and Make Up My Heart, both with lyrics by Richard Stilgoe. The catchy I Do was added to the German version, composed by Lloyd Webber’s son Alistair and with lyrics by Nick Coler – expect that to be your latest earworm.

It’s punderful

Critics will get to choo-choose as many skating and train-related puns as possible. Expect them to use their platform to get their skates on before being derailed, going off the tracks and becoming a trainwreck.

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A reimagined production of Beauty and the Beast will embark on a North American tour in June 2025.

The tour will hold technical rehearsals and begin performances at Schenectady's Proctors Theatre in June 2025, before an official opening at Chicago's Cadillac Palace Theatre in July. In August, the tour will stop at Minneapolis' Orpheum Theatre. Casting and a full itinerary for the two-year tour route will be announced at a later date. A spokesperson for Disney says there's currently no Broadway plans for this new production.

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Back to the Future the Musical is headed to Japan! The musical will be performed at JR East Shiki Theater in Takeshiba, Tokyo beginning in April 2025. The production was announced during a press conference held on January 24 with director John Rand, lead producer Colin Ingram, and Chiyoki Yoshida, President and CEO of Shiki Theatre Company.

Tickets will go on sale in December 2024 and casting will be announced at a later date.

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For the 2024 Academy Awards, Danielle Brooks was nominated in the category of Actress in Supporting Role for her turn as Sofia in the film adaptation of the musical “The Color Purple.” Brooks earned a Tony Award nomination for her performance in the same role in the 2015 revival.

Nominated in the same category is Da’Vine Joy Randolph, who was nominated for her work in “The Holdovers.” Broadway audiences will recognize Randolph from her Tony-nominated performance as Oda Mae Brown in the 2012 musical adaptation of “Ghost.”

In the category of Actor in a Supporting Role, Robert De Niro was nominated for “Killers of the Flower Moon.” De Niro co-directed and produced the 2016 musical “A Bronx Tale.”

Tony-nominated actor and producer Colman Domingo earned his first Oscar nomination for Actor in a Leading Role for his turn in “Rustin.” As a performer, Domingo has been seen in the currently running “Chicago,” 2008’s “Passing Strange” and 2010’s “The Scottsboro Boys,” the latter for which he earned his Tony nomination. Domingo co-wrote the book for 2018’s “Summer: The Donna Summer Musical”.

Emma Stone, who replaced as Sally Bowles in the 2014 revival of “Cabaret,” was nominated for Actress in a Leading Role for her turn in “Poor Things.”

Bradley Cooper was also nominated in the Oscar’s leading actor category for his portrayal of Leonard Bernstein in “Maestro.” Cooper was also nominated as a writer of the original screenplay for “Maestro” and again as producer for the film.

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For the first time in the Middle East, the popular and award-winning Broadway musical “Hamilton” is being shown in a four-week run at Etihad Arena, Abu Dhabi.

Worded and composed by Hollywood actor and songwriter Lin-Manuel Miranda, the 2015 production is about the unlikely rise of US founding father and politician Alexander Hamilton.

Although the story takes place in 18th-century New York City during the American Revolution, the music is gutsy and punchy, sung in rap and hip-hop style, which makes musical theater “cool,” according to “Hamilton” music director Alex Lacamoire.

During a media lunch and sneak preview of the musical in the UAE capital, Lacamoire told Arab News: “By and large there are people who tend to feel some distance with Broadway musicals. They don’t feel like it’s for them.

“But I’ve been finding that with the power of the way Lin writes, he makes musical theater accessible, hip, crackle.”

Lacamoire and Miranda have been friends and fellow actors (on the musical “In The Heights”) for 20 years, and Lacamoire recalled the first time he heard about the idea of “Hamilton.”

He said: “I was lucky to hear Lin’s songs just after he wrote them. Lin came to my room and said, ‘hey, here’s this song that I wrote.’ It was just like a seed of an idea, and we never could have dreamed that it could have gotten to Broadway, let alone come here to Abu Dhabi.

“Anytime I see someone wearing a ‘Hamilton’ shirt anywhere in the world, it is mindboggling to me.”

Although Lacamoire had initial doubts about Miranda’s unconventional choice of music, he warmed to it.

“Everybody thought Lin was crazy. I thought it was a joke. I wasn’t sure he was taking it seriously until I heard more and more music and I realized how serious he was. He did have the confidence, he saw it, and that’s what makes him a genius,” he added.

Australian actor Jason Arrow plays the lead role of Alexander Hamilton.

He said: “It is equal parts rewarding and challenging. There’s a lot to say. Honestly, it’s keeping my brain alert that is the hard bit. In work generally, when you’re so used to something, you just switch off, which I absolutely cannot do in this part at all.”

The drama-filled story of Hamilton is a manifestation of the American Dream. The founding father, once referred to as “the original immigrant,” was born out of wedlock in the West Indies in 1757. In the newly born country of the United States of America, Hamilton became its first secretary of the treasury at the age of 32.

“The thing that surprised me the most about him was his early life, the fact that he didn’t really have a family. He’s kind of on his own, which made me find a sympathetic ear for him,” Arrow added.

There is also a feminine touch to the story in Hamilton’s wife, Eliza, played by Filipina stage actress Rachelle Ann Go.

She told Arab News: “It’s a great musical. I feel I’m never going to get tired of being part of the show. It’s like a family.”

Go previously starred in the London and Manila productions of the show.

Having recently become a mother herself, the role felt personal. She said: “She is like the heart of the show. I fell in love with this character because of the way she ended the story, continuing Alexander’s legacy.

“All the emotional depth I feel, I can now understand Eliza’s story better: Her strength and resilience, going through a lot of things, but still having that voice and grace in her. As a woman, I’m rooting for this character,” Go added.

The show has been praised for its diverse casting and bold lyrics that reflect modern politics.

“We can always speculate and say, ‘it’s the music, the message, or it just came at the right time.’ But I honestly think it just has the right amount of everything – the entertainment and different song styles – that you need, and I think that’s what’s drawing people to it,” Arrow said.

Lacamoire said: “It doesn’t matter where you live, what language you speak, at the end of the day the show has enough draw to it with exciting aspects that will hook you in regardless of what you know about American history.

“It’s not just an American story. It’s about someone who, against odds, creates a life for himself, and who doesn’t want that? People enjoy the story of the underdog.”

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Out of town, on Broadway and on the road, the recent revival of “1776” was strategically cast in a nontraditional manner, with actors of diverse gender identities and racial backgrounds portraying the white, male Founding Fathers as they finalized the Declaration of Independence. “Putting history in the hands of the humans who were left out the first time around,” read the show’s marketing material.

But a lawsuit, filed earlier this week by actor Zuri Washington, alleges racial discrimination and retaliation on the show’s national tour. Washington hopes the complaint, which recounts producers’ dismissal of Washington’s hair preferences and alleges she was terminated after expressing an intent to submit a formal report of discrimination, reignites conversations about the industry’s inequitable treatment of Black hair and the harmful perpetuation of the “angry Black woman” stereotype.

“I was made to feel like I did something wrong in the course of this entire experience, and I know I didn’t do anything wrong,” Washington tells The Times. “I could have done things differently, perhaps. But what they did to me is like a legal version of tone-policing, and like I’m being constantly punished for existing and telling my truth.”

Washington filed the complaint against the tour’s production companies NETworks Presentations and 1776 Touring, and several of their employees. The tour’s production companies did not respond to The Times’ request for comment.

The article goes into more detail. Makes for interesting reading.

BroadwayWorld also covered this lawsuit in some detail a couple of days before the LA Times.

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[-] Prouvaire@kbin.social 27 points 10 months ago

For All Mankind is the Star Trek prequel we should have had. Co-created by Ron Moore (Deep Space Nine, Battlestar Galactica), the show has a bunch of Trek alumni working behind the scenes. It features human drama (and sometimes melodrama), geopolitical diplomacy, sweeping cultural change and scientific adventure against the backdrop of a multi generational future history, starting with the first moon landing.

[-] Prouvaire@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago

I honestly believe Captain Marvel was the start of the downfall of Marvel. Not because of the cast, sex, or anything along those lines. I believe they over did the character. They made her way to damn strong which made all the other characters pointless. Remember when a literal god, the most advanced mech, and the super soldier with all the stats struggled with Thanos? Then Cpt Marvel swoops in destroys a couple of ships and takes one on the chin like nothing, that was the moment.

I don't understand this criticism at all.

First of all, it was Wanda who had Thanos almost beaten, which is why he had his ship fire on the ground. So Wanda presented a greater threat to him than Captain Marvel did; so great a threat that he was willing to sacrifice his entire army to try to take her out. I think it was Feige who said, around the time of Endgame or maybe shortly thereafter, that Wanda was the most powerful character in the MCU. But people don't criticise Wanda for being overpowered and making all the other characters pointless.

Second of all, while Danvers did take down one ship (not two, not that it makes a difference), they could have found ways for several other characters to do the same (eg Doctor Strange via illusions, Wanda or Thor through sheer power, Iron Man through nanotech magic) - they just wanted Captain Marvel to make a big entrance because she had been teased at the end of Infinity War (and then also in her own movie prior to Endgame), and we hadn't really seen her manifest her full power earlier in Endgame.

But the whole point of that her late intervention in the final fight was that Captain Marvel was NOT the overpowered deus ex machina that many fans falsely deride her to be. Because in a one-on-one fight with Thanos, Thanos disposes of her easily - they trade a few punches, he throws her into the ground. She comes back, and he punches her out of frame and out of the film (until the epilogue). The final fight came down to Captain America, Thor and of course Iron Man, which it was always going to - those being the three keystone Avengers of the MCU.

That's also why all the founding members of the Avengers went unsnapped at the end of Infinity War. Markus and McFeely and the Russos knew they were making an Avengers movie, not a Captain Marvel movie. Markus and McFeely knew that fans would have felt rightfully betrayed if a character, who had only been introduced to the MCU a year or so before, had swooped in and saved the day after a decade-long build up. So they made sure she didn't. But more fool them - they still cop the same criticism.

And I say all this as someone who thinks that both Captain Marvel movies (and most of Larson's performances in the MCU) have been decidedly mediocre, though not for any reasons related to her power level.

[-] Prouvaire@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

Ernest has previously said that this will be an upgrade to address several issues, such as those related to federation, spam and lack of moderation tools.

[-] Prouvaire@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

Honestly Dr.manhattan was kinda dumb. “Oh I need to stop humanity from nuking itself” meanwhile I demonstrate easy ability to travel to other planets.

Doctor Manhattan's ability to save the human race wasn't the issue. He was basically a god. It was his willingness. He didn't feel the need to stop humanity doing anything:

A live body and a dead body contain the same number of particles. Structurally, there's no discernible difference. Life and death are unquantifiable abstracts. Why should I be concerned?

[-] Prouvaire@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago

I've always maintained that TWOK is not just a really good Star Trek movie, not just a really good science fiction movie, but a really good movie period. It transcends the franchise and the genre, which I don't think can be said of any other Trek movie.

It's a movie that's about something meaningful - getting older, confronting mortality and legacy, and renewal through sacrifice. Kirk starts out feeling old, worn out, but ends with him saying "I feel young". Maybe it's a little trite when put so bluntly, but it's executed in an elegant and impactful way.

TWOK evolves Kirk in a way we hadn't seen before. He is a different person at the end of the movie than he was at the beginning (or throughout the TV show). Less cocky, more aware of the consequences of his actions, because it literally cost him his best friend.

Spock's death scene was the first time Star Trek ever made me cry. You can argue that TWOK is more militaristic than Star Trek normally was, but the themes of friendship, loyalty and sacrifice is pure Trek idealism. One could even argue that TWOK is about exploration, but an inner journey not an external one: Kirk encounters for the first time (by which I mean in a way that truly hits him) "death, the undiscovered country" (the film's working title).

In David Marcus and Saavik TWOK introduces what might have been a new generation of characters, to whom the torch might have been passed if they hadn't been killed off and sent to the home for pregnant Vulcans, respectively, in later movies. In either case, these two new characters - especially in light of Spock's death (a death sadly temporary, to the franchise's long-term detriment) - tie into the themes of mortality and legacy.

TWOK has what's arguably Shatner's finest performance - certainly in Star Trek, maybe ever. Everyone else is also in top form.

TWOK has the best antagonist. So compelling was Khan that they keep on trying to remake the "so-and-so is out for revenge" story. Montalban was so good Paramount even launched a "For Your Consideration" campaign to get him a Best Supporting Actor Oscar nod. And Montalban's Khan easily has the best chest of any Trek villain.

Even though Khan is the best villain, Khan and Kirk actually never physically meet. Their entire confrontation is carried out over comms. They never get into a fistfight or even breathe the same air, something that took me years to realise. Because theirs feels like the most visceral, tense and personal battle of any movie.

Even though TWOK was made on a very limited budget, a lot of the production design and visual/special effects hold up - there's a reason why Robert Fletcher's monster maroons are so iconic for instance. So many effective little moments. Eg the Genesis simulation (one of the first uses of CGI in a movie), though primitive by today's standards, still looks really cool because of the way it was storyboarded by ILM, with the camera sweeping ahead of the Genesis effect, then the effect catching up to it.

The battle scenes have real weight. I've always thought that Meyer's conceptualisation of starships as capital ships - rather than as jetfighters - made for better fight scenes. The entire movie is basically Roddenberry's "Horatio Hornblower in space" idea realised (hence touches like the bosun's whistle and the old-fashioned look of the uniforms), an idea which carried over to how he staged the battles, with Enterprise and Reliant squaring off like galleons at sea.

Speaking of battle sequences, the "gatling gun" phaser effect is still the best phaser effect in Trek. And you've never felt the pain of the ship getting hit as acutely as the "can opener" shot: another example of a shot which is unremarkable at a technical level today, but which still has an emotional impact. Ditto the Ceti eels.

Horner's music is arguably the best of any of the movies. There are individual tracks in other movies that might rank alongside or above the best of Horner's tracks - eg Goldsmith's First Contact theme or Giacchino's "Enterprising Young Men" - but as a whole I don't think you can surpass TWOK's score.

There are so many iconic moments and lines. "Aren't you dead?", the Dickens and Melville quotes, "I never forget a face, Mr... Chekov", "I don't like to lose", "He's so... human. / Nobody's perfect Mr Saavik", "I have been and always will be your friend", "Of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, his was the most... human".

Is it a perfect movie? No. Eg while a lot of production design works, some of it looks cheesy (like Meyer's obsession with blinkety lights). Some of the supporting characters aren't utilised as well as they might have been. (But then, the TOS movies have all been Kirk movies - it's worth remembering that TOS was not an ensemble show, but one with a clear primary, secondary and tertiary character.) But the elements in TWOK that don't quite work don't detract from its overall impact and quality.

[-] Prouvaire@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago

This episode was like someone said "Let's do our version of The Undiscovered Country" and then gave it to a bunch of DS9 writers to execute. It starts with very Roddenberrian premise - the promise of a former enemy becoming an ally. But then it brings in the gritty realism of what war is really like, ala "The Siege of AR-558", and the moral cost that war extracts - that maybe the monster you see is not just in the face of the enemy, but the face you see in the mirror, ala "Duet", "In the Pale Moonlight" and the other morally grey episodes that often marked the best of DS9's run.

[-] Prouvaire@kbin.social 37 points 1 year ago

The danger with these "very special fun episodes" is that they can be confined to being just that. But what elevated this episode is how it used the time travel/crossover conceit to foreshadow, progress and pay off SNW character arcs, including Chapel and Spock's ultimately doomed relationship (something that I've previously said could be incredibly poignant, if handled right), Number One's legacy, and the way Pike confronts his fate. I hope the musical episode does the same.

[-] Prouvaire@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago

Robinson 110% played Garak as being sexually interested in Bashir in his first appearance. And in the (non-canon but very very good) novel A Stitch in Time that Robinson himself authored, he establishes Garak as having had relationships with men and women.

As the show developed the producers/writers/studio backed away from that idea (which, to be fair, I think is a spin that the actor himself put on the script, rather than being there on the page itself), hence giving Garak a girlfriend.

Personally I never read into any of their scenes together that Bashir was interested in Garak as anything more than a friend, but if the show had been more progressive in that respect I suppose it might have evolved into an explicitly romantic relationship. Early 1990s vs early 2020s I suppose.

DS9 was pretty progressive in that the idea of "being in the closet" wrt ones sexual orientation was never a consideration. In "Rejoined" for instance, nobody has an issue with Dax loving another woman - the taboo was about reassociation. And "Rules of Acquisition" people didn't judge Pel (who people thought was a man at the time) for falling in love with Quark - the taboo was about Ferengi females wearing clothes etc. (Not sure if that Matt Baume video mentions this - it's been a while since I saw it.)

[-] Prouvaire@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

ENT was basically watered down TNG for its first two seasons. Some of the time it was good (eg "Carbon Creek"), some of the time it was bad (eg "Precious Cargo"), but most of the time it was stultifyingly mediocre. Season 3 tried something different, but it was only in season 4 that ENT found its true voice.

And it was Manny Coto who was responsible for the upswing in quality. I'm generally skeptical of prequels, but at least Coto fully bought into the premise of ENT being a prequel show, and showed us how various aspects of Trek lore came to be. I think his stint running that final season may have been his best work.

[-] Prouvaire@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@thingsiplay It's a known bug. The primary kbin developer Ernest has said that this fix is currently implemented in the kbin development environment. This means it should be rolled out to production (ie the live site) soon. See: https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/116811/PSA-every-interaction-you-make-with-various-posts-on-kbin#entry-comment-462816

Edit: And it's fixed.

[-] Prouvaire@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

Now the creator has gone inactive and hasn't been around for for 4 days.

Question from someone who might want to start a couple of magazines/communities: Is being away for four days long enough to be considered inactive?

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