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submitted 11 months ago by MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca

Other right-wing accounts variously reacted by describing the move as Orwellian, lamenting the death of free speech and even contemplating leaving Canada for good.

Oh no. Not that. Please no.

<Tee hee!>

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[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 113 points 11 months ago

even contemplating leaving Canada for good.

Hello, yes, LGBT person stuck in Texas here. Can I have their house please? I don't really like the cold, but if it means I don't have to feel scared about coming out of the closet then I could deal with it.

[-] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 38 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

My comrad in crisis, no one in Canada can afford houses anymore. High chance they are just impoverished renters.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 18 points 11 months ago

2/3 of Canadians own their own homes.

[-] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 10 points 11 months ago

Hmm, that actually tracks with what I see in real life, but it's pretty impressive. I guess that's also why we have massive household debt.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 12 points 11 months ago

We have massive household debt because we are livestock farmed for wealth by the plutocrats. They get us in debt early and keep us in debt our whole lives to that they can extract the maximum amount of interest from us until we die and our estates can be picked over for anything that's left to pay our final debts.

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[-] Unaware7013@kbin.social 97 points 11 months ago

How can the government just overstep on Canadians' first amendment rights? Don't they know what the US founding fathers stood for? The right of Canadians to say whatever they want to whomever they want without fear of any consequences!!!1!

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 29 points 11 months ago

Yup. They live in the christofascist echo bunker which is dominated by US neo-fascist billionaires and have no idea what's actually going on in the real world.

[-] FreeBooteR69@kbin.social 22 points 11 months ago

It's hilarious most of them don't know that this country has a charter of rights and freedoms, not the American constitution.

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[-] Grimpen@lemmy.ca 12 points 11 months ago

The first amendment you say? They're still salty about the formation of Manitoba out of the Northwest Territory?

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[-] brax@sh.itjust.works 72 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Other right-wing accounts variously reacted by describing the move as Orwellian, lamenting the death of free speech and even contemplating leaving Canada for good. Some rejected the authority of the court altogether while others questioned if the judge herself had "something to hide."

Funny how they think free speech is dead. I'm sure the there's a pretty decent overlap between these idiots and the people standing in front of Town Halls and region headquarters whining about vaccines, kickdowns, and Trudeau with 0 repercussions.

These dumb fucks need to stop crying about "free speech" and start crying about what it is they really want - the ability to be degenerates and knuckle draggers without any repercussions.

I openly invite all these morons to leave Canada for good. We don't want them. Nobody wants them. Go! Move to Antarctica where maybe the penguins will put up with your dipshittery. Maybe we can set up a GoFundMe to help them afford the travel cost out of here.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 73 points 11 months ago

When the right wing says, "free speech" they actually mean, "hate speech without repercussions". Free speech is a right wing dog whistle.

[-] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 39 points 11 months ago

Yeah, these are the same people that want to ban books and have tight control over which true things are taught in schools.

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 18 points 11 months ago

Penguins and seals down there aren't gonna put up with their shit either.

[-] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 17 points 11 months ago

The poor penguins.

[-] chaosppe@lemmy.world 52 points 11 months ago

Good. Every time they bs without evidence, it: Destroys the credibility of legitimate claims & can cause serious reputation and mental harm to the accused. Should be criminal

[-] grue@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

They're not "BSing;" they're "defaming" and "inciting violence against."

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[-] Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world 52 points 11 months ago

This is Canada, they have different laws around protected free speech. People don't realize that the US is basically the only country that has these super broad free speech laws written into the constition.

[-] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

This is illegal in the US too (defamation per se). The main difference is that the US requires a higher standard for public figures (proving actual malice i.e. that they lied knowingly and maliciously).

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[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 21 points 11 months ago

The Constitution does not apply between interactions between private citizens. The Constitution only applies between the State and the Public.

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[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 45 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

lamenting the death of free speech

Its amazing how ignorant they are to the fact it’s always* been like this

* since the Bill of Rights

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[-] grte@lemmy.ca 39 points 11 months ago

They used to have a much better grasp on this sort of thing. "Is so-and-so a groomer? I don't know, but people have been saying. I'm just asking questions..." and so forth. Couching your bs accusations in uncertain language to protect you from the libel lawsuit you clearly deserve. I guess it's good they seem to be forgetting about that tool more frequently.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 23 points 11 months ago

We've reached the tipping point. Fascism is on the rise globally and they have broken cover and are running to try to grab the prize. They need to be stopped.

[-] grte@lemmy.ca 9 points 11 months ago

100% agreed.

[-] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

They're being groomed into a mob. It's mass psyops in preparation for next years election cycle. An agitated mob doesn't happen over night.

[-] blargerer@kbin.social 36 points 11 months ago

Gotta love Canadians that think they are ruled by American laws. Every Canadian should know slander and libel laws here are much more restrictive on speech.

[-] mPony@kbin.social 14 points 11 months ago

about as inspiring as Canadians that WANT to be ruled by American laws.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 12 points 11 months ago

This seems to be the whole point of the Conservative Party these days. Wannabe US Republicans.

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[-] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago

Defamation isn't protected under US laws either. It might not be super well enforced, especially on the internet, but that's also not really exclusive to the US. A lot of countries are just now really getting into the legalities of what happens on the internet, for better or worse in certain cases. But generally speaking, laws also apply to what you say online of course.

[-] blargerer@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago

There is a fundamental difference in the way defamation is treated in Canada(and other Common law countries like the UK and Australia) and the US. This is a simplification, but basically in the US you generally need to prove that the statement was knowingly false (in addition to other defamation requirements like proving damages). This is nearly impossible to do in most situations. In Common law the person who said the statement needs to prove they had a reasonable justification for thinking the statement true. This reverses who the onus of proof is on and makes winning defamation cases in Canada actually plausible.

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[-] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

They were just exercising their right to Manitoba.

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[-] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Is there anywhere in tge world that isnt infected by fascism?

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They have certainly gotten themselves organized. Once they realized that our system only functions because of the good faith of the participants and that they could lie and cheat and steal with no consequences they quickly began to take over.

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[-] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 8 points 11 months ago

Like cancer cells in your blood stream, the internet has made fascist mindsets easily dumped in little corners throughout the world

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[-] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Please don’t take the bait!!!!

This is left wing bait so that you support a privacy destroying censorship bill.

It’s the same as “won’t somebody please think of the children”

I’m all for pride and everything, but this is political bullshite to try and convince you that you don’t need privacy online.

DON’T TAKE THE BAIT!

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 37 points 11 months ago

This isn't bait, this is accurate reporting of a decision by a Canadian court. Reality can be scary when you step out of the echo bunker.

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[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 20 points 11 months ago

This is left wing bait so that you support a privacy destroying censorship bill.

It's a violation of my privacy that I can't go around defaming people 😤 😤 😤

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