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[-] folkrav@lemmy.world 88 points 1 year ago

Might as well not use TypeScript

[-] PoopMonster@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

Just as irritating as seeing people use linters only to have a lot of files with @ts-ignore all over the place... Like why even bother?

[-] master5o1@lemmy.nz 8 points 1 year ago

oh you've got a private variable that I want to use? No worries, (foo as any)['secret'].

[-] fusio@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

using any is actually much worse than using TS, because you're basically telling the compiler "don't help me here".. at least with JS the IDE is gonna help you.. :/

[-] seeyouinteawhy@lib.lgbt 10 points 1 year ago

That's the joke

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

I don't follow, stamping every function with : any lets you merge the branch and deploy it... trying to properly type everything extends the initial migration time likely to a level where management just says no.

[-] folkrav@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Use a combination of allowJs and ts-ignore, do progressive enhancement, and convert your codebase file by file. Adding any everywhere literally turns off type checking altogether codebase wide, including type inference. It also means a huge PR that's both just noise that needs to be fixed later, and messes with your git history (good luck getting anything useful out of blame or bisect now).

Just getting a green build doesn't mean things are okay. You're worse off than before doing that.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I disagree that you're worse off (the core of my comment was that even a shitty migration encourages better practices)... but I wasn't super familiar with TS hinting - using ts-ignore would be preferable.

Personally, I mostly work in PHP and we use a similar system. Strict typing is default off so we've slowly propagated declare(strict_types=1); to enable compile and runtime checking on a per file basis.

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

tbh I don't remember why I'm using TypeScript

[-] folkrav@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Cause otherwise it's plain JS :/

[-] alokir@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago

It's a good way to get started, and then incrementally type as much as you can, preferably everything.

Later on, or if you start a new project with TypeScript, it's a good idea to turn on noImplicitAny and only allow explicit any in very specific framework level code, unit tests or if you interface with an untyped framework.

The hassle really pays off later.

[-] fusio@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

this is terrible advise - you should be using unknown. using any you're basically disabling TS and will be under the false assumption that your code is ok while it's most likely missing a lot of runtime checks

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But if your code ever integrates with javascript you still need any everywhere so it's pretty pointless

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not true, in the absolute worst case, unknown is what you should be reaching for, but it's pretty rare that you can't create some kind of type to interface with JS if it's not already got types. You can even use jsdoc comments as type hints in the JS too if you own that code.

My not particularly hot hot-take: There's basically no legitimate use case for any apart from "I don't have time to type all this now, because I'm converting a massive project from JS to TS"

[-] jana@leminal.space 5 points 1 year ago

There are some cases where any must be used instead of unknown but they usually involve generic constraints and seem more like a bug than intended behavior

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Ah you're right there, and I also agree, that feels more like a bug than by design

[-] alokir@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Not necessarily, depending on your situation you can type the JS code yourself.

If the team making the JS code were using jsdoc then the Typescript compiler can recognize the comments and use it for type checking.

In some instances the compiler can infer types from JS code to do some basic validation.

Even if the external JS code is recognized as any, your own code that's using it still has types, so it's better than nothing.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 11 points 1 year ago
[-] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

But it’s “a colon any” 🧐

[-] Spoilt@jlai.lu 7 points 1 year ago

I knew my any key would be useful one day.

[-] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 6 points 1 year ago

I wish I did that, at this point my TypeScript template errors are as long as C++'s ._.

[-] topinambour_rex@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Why not use assembly ?

[-] ByGourou@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Typing < type hinting

[-] ABC123itsEASY@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Nah this isn't the way, friend. Instead of adding a bunch of useless anys all over the place, start typing in one part of the application and exclude the rest using a path pattern. Or simply allow .js and only change the extension for files you've typed. Doing this is just wasting time and creating false assurances of type safety.
It's not that hard to define correct, meaningful types. Often vscode already has implicitly determined them for you; just mouseover the variable.

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