Lol why is it still surprising that Europeans don’t give a shit about the atrocities they’ve committed, or the land they’ve stolen? Come on y’all, they’ve been at it for like 600 years. It’s like expecting the methhead to stop doing meth.
All the non european migrants i work with are voting no. They see the voice as racist and, like you, view indigenous issues as the fault of white people and therefore not their problem.
I have the exact same experience. Most of the people with an anglo saxon background are voting yes, most of the people from other backgrounds are voting no. Some of the reasons given is because they think it will privilege one group over another, they don't like the idea of one group being identified for "special treatment", etc.
Hey keep Europeans out of it, stop the generalization. Specifically it was britishers so
Fair. My bad homie.
Europeans? Do you call Americans Europeans too? How long ago must a nation be established before they become their own entity to you? You might as well call us all Pangeans!
Not a good look. Very disappointed.
I've voted Yes, albeit with a bit of hesitancy.
As far as I am concerned, the role and functioning of the Voice is clearly defined in the proposal so this was never an issue for me. Where I feel people are generally stuck on is whether or not having an advisory body for just one demographic of people is naturally divisive. The argument becomes almost a bit of a slippery slope; if we have one body for indigenous people, why don't we have one for other ethnic groups?
At face value, I understand why this can be perceived as racist and divisive, however, I think we have to also agree there is a slight nuance to this issue. The fact of the matter is that our government has been creating laws surrounding indigenous people for ages and it is because they are unfortunately the most disadvantaged group within Australia. This has been long going now before even having a Voice and we haven't been calling the government racist or divisive up until now (well most of us at least). Clearly what is in place now doesn't work and we have a history of failed Voice to parliament's because we have change hands so frequently that no one bothers to continue with taking those issues with the seriousness it deserves.
Establishing a Voice does 2 things in my book. It provides the indigenous community with a level of autonomy to fix their own issues. Secondly, changing hands down the line cannot remove them. The proposal here also means that their level of influence will change as their needs are met. If at one point in time a Voice is no longer needed, it can be pulled back as needed.
I hope people don't buy into the catch phrases and simple minded thinking. Please make an informed decision and vote with how you feel best. Being open minded is all I really hope people can be when deciding how to vote.
At face value, I understand why this can be perceived as racist and divisive
I appreciate that you're not working to promote the talking point where if a profoundly disadvantaged racial group is given representation it's "racist against white people", but I live in a country where white people routinely argue that any amount of civil rights protections is "racist against white people" and it gives me a headache processing that level of stupid.
Yep, in my country it's regular fare to hear GOP politicians bleat "you're being divisive!" (as if our failure to submit to their rule is a fault)- it takes two to be on opposing sides of a divide, and it's morally dishonest to pretend that only the other side of a disagreement is at fault for honest disagreement. Don't let them work the 'you're being divisive' angle, you'll never hear the end of it.
I’m voting ‘no’.
If you want a job in politics with a $200K salary, earn it. I don’t care what colour your skin is.
Specific groups and races have no place in Australia's constitution. Find another way.
Referendums are always such a spineless way out of doing the right thing.
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