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submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

cross-posted from: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/37857048

chore: set default instance to lemmy.zip, remove lemm.ee

Thank you for all your work!

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[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 3 weeks ago

Congrats to @Demigodrick@lemmy.zip, seems like the transparency and the great monthly reports (https://lemmy.zip/post/39959863) paid back!

[-] Demigodrick@lemmy.zip 46 points 3 weeks ago
[-] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 3 weeks ago

You deserve it, one of the best instances [and admins] by far.

[-] Quicky@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago

Bit shit for UK users though since lemmy.zip is blocked for them. Not exactly going to encourage new users from here.

[-] gressen@lemm.ee 19 points 3 weeks ago

They should direct their concerns to the source of the issue - the ones that put UK in this predicament.

[-] Quicky@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Realistically that is never going to happen. The biggest issue the fediverse has is onboarding. People just looking to try out a reddit alternative aren't going to bother emailing their fucking MP just because the default settings of an app won't let them sign up. They'll just give up and go elsewhere.

If we want to encourage growth, adding additional barriers isn't the way to do it.

[-] Demigodrick@lemmy.zip 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I fully agree with you - I'm legally liable though under the act and am not risking fines.

[-] Quicky@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah I don't blame you either. But I do think the default server should be more inclusive than less, particularly at the potential starting point of a user's introduction to the fediverse.

[-] aeharding@vger.social 8 points 3 weeks ago

I could see that argument, but I also wanted to pick the best instance for most people, not necessarily an instance that works in every country with every shitty law. We're all volunteers here.

And I might change in the future, or create a way for the app to chose a fallback default instance for a better user experience.

[-] Quicky@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yep, a region check that sets an alternative default for countries that are blocked by the default server makes way more sense than the default being inaccessible for them.

[-] greybeard@feddit.online 3 points 3 weeks ago

A region check might be a good way to handle it and load balance at the same time. Pushing people to a larger variety of instances while also making it easy on them. The down side is certainly the overhead of vetting and maintaining the list.

[-] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 weeks ago

Lemmy.zip is blocked on a national level for the UK?

[-] Quicky@lemmy.world 74 points 3 weeks ago
[-] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 3 weeks ago

Wow. Thanks for sharing.

[-] mbirth@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 weeks ago

It’s not lemmy.zip that’s blocked in the UK, they (lemmy.zip) block every visitor from the UK as they don’t want to get in trouble for violating the UK’s Online Safety Act.

Have lemmy.zip defederated from feddit.uk as well? If not, why not? Is there a legal difference?

[-] Demigodrick@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 weeks ago

There is no need for us to defederate, the law is around accessing a specific website and the onligations to ensure the content on that website doesnt fall under the OSA.

It doesn't matter where that content comes from, just that UK users don't see specific content. Therefore we don't show UK users any content.

That's kind of a simplified summary, but hopefully makes sense.

It only impacts lemmy.zip because I am a UK resident and run the site, so am liable under the act. Otherwise I'd do what everyone else has done and ignore it.

[-] khorovodoved@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

Wouldn't feddit.uk itself be categorized as a UK user for this purpose?

[-] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 3 points 2 weeks ago

At the moment, it's seen more like using a proxy or VPN. UK users connect to fuk outside of the UK, then the messages are relayed to zip. Fuk is UK focussed, so tries to work with the OSA.
The best analogy is using a UK-focussed email service (wherever it's actually hosted) to email a non-UK address.

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

that is okay feddit.uk is blocked by my default blocklist on the router. I've started to add it to the white list a few times but no I think I'll let fate sort it out.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 3 weeks ago

It would be nice if it wasn't onto the zip domain.

I'd always be terrified to get a surprise zip bomb auto downloading

[-] Blaze@piefed.social 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Which instance would you use instead of lemmy.zip?

From another post

Lemmy.world is too big  
sh.itjust.works names contains "shit", which can deter users  
lemmy.ca is Canadian-centric  
feddit.org, is German-centric, but technically English speaking too  
dbzer0 is topic focused  
programming.dev is topic-centric  
blahaj is queer-focused  
discuss.tchncs.de has a difficult name  
lemmy.sdf.org does not defederate anyone  
beehaw defederates LW and SJW  
infosec.pub is topic-centric  
aussie.zone is country-centric  
midwest.social is region-centric  

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/37336391?scrollToComments=true

https://lemmyverse.net/?order=active_month

There's a reason lemm.ee was the previous default instance.

[-] khorovodoved@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago

dbzer0 federates hexbear

lemm.ee and lemmy.zip also federate hexbear.

[-] Blaze@piefed.social 4 points 2 weeks ago

Edited as db0 is openly anarchist, probably not the best fit for everyone.

[-] dditty@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Sounds like db0 will be where I migrate to then, TY Blaze!

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe Cafe? Honestly I don't think they should have default option

[-] Blaze@piefed.social 5 points 2 weeks ago

Lemmy.cafe had an issue with pictures not loading properly from 22nd of November to 16 of January: https://lemmy.cafe/post/9986198

And yes, you probably wont' be able to see it without being logged in

[-] sga@lemmings.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

lemmings.world or pifed.social both are general purpose, and relatively small

[-] Blaze@piefed.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

Voyager doesn't support Piefed at the moment

[-] sga@lemmings.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

that explains it

[-] Gladaed@feddit.org 5 points 3 weeks ago

Ok, but why did they do this and why is it good?

[-] squirrel@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 3 weeks ago

Lemm.ee is shutting down at the end of the month.

[-] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 weeks ago

Lemm.ee is shutting down, so they had to change. Lemmy.zip is the best choice

[-] Sc00ter@lemm.ee 10 points 3 weeks ago

Been trying to figure out where to migrate. This is the biggest endorsement that I should shift to .zip

[-] greybeard@feddit.online 5 points 3 weeks ago

I had the same problem with lemmy.one shutting down. I've been exploring around and am currently trying feddit.online, because it isn't lemmy based. So far I'm liking it, but Piefed just got a proper API for apps and the first app launched yesterday, so we'll see how it goes.

this post was submitted on 04 Jun 2025
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