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Seriously, where are 99% of the life begins at conception people on the meat industry?

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[-] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 94 points 4 days ago

If you're really being serious, then the answer is that most (or, at least, the vocal majority) of those people don't even really care about living children. I don't see that type of person generally giving any more care to a non-human being than they would a human being, and they already don't care about people other than themselves.

"Pro-life" has always been a misnomer. More honest descriptions would be "anti-choice" or "pro-forced birth."

[-] cogman@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

It's anti-woman.

The real true reason most people are against abortion isn't because they don't believe it's a necessity. It's because they are afraid that some woman won't be punished for having sex. Whether or not the fetus survives isn't the point, it's that someone has to be punished for enjoying life.

[-] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago

Pro-life

In their mind, is still just breeding more cheap disposable labor

[-] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago

Serious in that they should stand up for non-human animals, but in the kind of way where you also know the answer as to why 99% aren't

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[-] DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago

One single HUMAN cell, everyone knows humans are above all animals

[-] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

I'm still waiting for them to stop celebrating birthdays.

[-] PigStyle@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago

Some of them explain this away with "Humans have souls, animals don't".

[-] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 27 points 4 days ago

And yet many can be up in arms about dogs & cats being eaten in some regions despite that claim

[-] riwo 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

dogs go to dog heaven, duh
of they got souls! /s

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[-] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

Apparently that soul doesn't matter when trying to prevent it from dying from preventable diseases with vaccines and nurturing it with affordable education.

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[-] OccultIconoclast@reddthat.com 16 points 3 days ago

It's racism. They think human lives are more important than other races.

[-] pankuleczkapl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 3 days ago

It is so prevalent that this type of bigotry actually has its own name: specieism

[-] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

beat me to it (by only 11h :D)

[-] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago

Speciesism, but yes

[-] OccultIconoclast@reddthat.com 2 points 3 days ago

The human race thinks they're the supreme race, better than the other races.

[-] galanthus@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Yes, exactly. The complexity of the human soul is uncomparable to the basic impulses of any animal.

[-] amon@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

A single cell

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 days ago

Where exactly in the single cell is the soul stored?

[-] dandelion 5 points 3 days ago

[-] OccultIconoclast@reddthat.com 3 points 3 days ago

Embryos don't have souls. The soul develops during the third trimester.

If you can play music into your belly and get a kick, that thing has a soul. But there's a lot of time where it's not that developed.

[-] galanthus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Poor choice of words on my part, perhaps. Maybe, if I chose "mind, instead of the more poetic word "soul" people would not reply about how an embryo is not ensouled.

But please tell me, was your original comment about racism towards animals sarcastic? It is sometimes hard to tell, and it seems almost like a position someone would hold.

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[-] FruitLips@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

Says what, some ancient text?

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[-] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

Yeah but if babies were delicious we would eat them too

[-] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 16 points 4 days ago

Is this implying you know for certain that human babies aren't? Maybe we should be a little concerned how you figured that one out

[-] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago

So I ate a baby big whoop wanna fight about it?

[-] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago

Baby Big Whoop? Damn there's a whole product line now?

[-] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 8 points 4 days ago

I've got a modest proposal for you...

[-] Glytchrider 5 points 4 days ago

I wanted to say that but wasn't swift enough.

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[-] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 4 days ago

They are pro-birth. They are absolutely not pro-life.

[-] celeste 23 points 4 days ago

I think they're anti-woman.

[-] ookiiBoy 8 points 3 days ago

Think? We fucking know.

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[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

But that's different!

Honestly though, is "but it's different" a proper informal fallacy?

[-] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

Not quite identical, but there are some that are close

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_incredulity

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_the_stone

[-] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I think "but it's different" is actually just special pleading:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_pleading

@TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world

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