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[-] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 5 months ago

Electric cars burn less than ICE cars and ICE cars aren't too different from electric cars regarding material footprint.

The glory of public transport lies in its transformative function on urban and interurban lives. Cars build suburbanism or spatially crammed cities. That difference is where our propaganda should rely on, not this weak EV-bad.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

The glory of public transport lies in its transformative function on urban and interurban lives. Cars build suburbanism or spatially crammed cities. That difference is where our propaganda should rely on, not this weak EV-bad.

well put

[-] buzz86us@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

I like my electric car, but the fact that I have to own a car, maintain it, and pay insurance on it is such bullshit when I'm only 4 miles from my job, and bus service doesn't run until 9AM. Fuck all this stroad BS bring back trolleys.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 5 months ago

people just shouldn't need to personally own a car unless they live in the middle of nowhere, anywhere vaguely densely populated you should have usable public transport and carshare systems so you can just book a car when you actually want to use it, and those times should be pretty few and far between (even going on a leisure ride every other day is way way way way less usage than we see right now)

[-] buzz86us@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Sad part is my area had a robust trolley network

[-] Redredme@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

4 miles? As a dutchie I say: get a bicycle.

[-] buzz86us@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Try it on a stroad with cars zooming by at all vectors, and in 7 below weather when the sidewalk isn't plowed

[-] StJohnMcCrae@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If my city had maintained (or possibly even upgraded?!) the electric streetcar system we had in place over 100 years ago, there would be around 1 million less cars on the road today, and another couple million less going through the scrap yards. Portland Electric Streetcar System 1915

Anyone who's ever taken Trimet: Look at this map and see what was stolen from you.

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

What annoys me about lacking public transit is that the problems caused by a lack of use and a lack of funding are always what the naysayers against public transportation point to as examples why it sucks.

It sucks because you dumbasses don't put money into it to make it not suck! (The "you" being a generalization of the people against public transportation)

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

no 'one thing' will 'save' us. not even transit.

better to have vehicle options that don't spew carbon monoxide

[-] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

semi related surrealism:

[-] RideAgainstTheLizard@slrpnk.net 5 points 5 months ago

Cars and personal transportation will never go away as long as our society is stable. It's better to have electric cars than fossil fuelled cars. Electric cars and good public transport can coexist.

[-] hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 months ago

Cars will probably destroy US society before they go away, but either way there's a clear end point. I'd say fight like hell to get rid of cars so it ends on the best possible terms, but you do you.

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