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[-] aeternum@kbin.social 105 points 1 year ago

i'd rather not use youtube than watch ads.

[-] eek2121@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Thankfully that isn’t a choice you have to make, and thanks to open source, you will ever need to make.

The only trick Google has up their sleeve is their web integrity work. Even then, there will be workarounds.

[-] Konlanx@feddit.de 44 points 1 year ago

I have been adblocking on YouTube for as long as I remember. Personally I think it's unusable without an adblocker. What's the alternative? Because I am not suddenly going to pay for a platform that keeps getting worse all the time.

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[-] Synthead@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This message is displayed in the browser because Google asked your browser to do it, and your browser got the message and put it there.

When displaying ads, the end user experience is 100% client-side. You are using your screen and speakers to observe it. You can turn off your speakers and screen if you want, which will effectively "block" the ad.

But that is silly. Not only do you own your screen and speakers, but you have control of what you're browser is doing, too (if you use a respectable browser). When HTML, CSS, JavaScript, and other content is downloaded, just that happened: file downloads. After it has been downloaded, your browser then consumes it.

When it is consumed, a lot happens, but ultimately, the code in the browser displays content. Your (respectable) browser does all of this, and will change the look depending on local fonts, accessibility options, etc. With an ad block add-on, it will also remove these ads.

However, when ads are removed, the DOM is mutated with deleted or replaced content. It is possible for a website to then write ad block detection scripts to see if the ad contents have been removed or not. There are many ways to do this, and this screenshot is the result of one way of doing it.

However, enter the cat-and-mouse-chase of ad block block blocks. You can block your ads, then block the ad block block like this screenshot. These types of ad block rules are less common, but many public ones are available. Check the uBlock Origin lists in the setting page. By default, only about a third of the lists are enabled, and these extra blocks are in there.

Another avenue of determining that ads were not loaded is for the server to inspect if client-side (you) requests were made to fetch the ads. Even if this is in place, the server cannot determine if you have actually watched the ad or not. It could try to do more client-side attempts at validating that you somehow displayed it, but again, that's client-side.

Imagine if you were sent a letter and a pamphlet in the mail. Imagine if the letter said that you could mail them back for a free sample of their product, but only if you read the pamphlet. They would have to trust that you read it, because you are reading your mail in the privacy of your own home. However, you could opt to toss the pamphlet (like an ad blocker) and never read it. It's your mail, your home, and your choice.

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[-] Kuro@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago

It will be yet another endless cat and mouse game

There are smart people out there that will always find ways around this

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[-] jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 year ago

Is "allowlist" the new word for whitelist?

[-] TheEntity@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago

Not really new, it's been around for about a decade. Otherwise: yes.

[-] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 1 year ago

Some people mistakenly think that the “black” in “blacklist” is a reference to skin color, so they demand it to be changed.

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[-] JDubbleu@programming.dev 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm honestly glad we're getting rid of white/black list. I personally couldn't give a shit the racial element (which wasn't what they ever meant anyway), but I never have to stop and think about it for a half second to figure out which I need. Allow/deny list are just outright better names.

[-] Charliebeans@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 year ago

Seems like it's controlled test in different countries and segments. I (Europe) get this popup in Firefox, I also use pi-hole DNS and ublock origin.

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[-] hunt4peas@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Which adblocker are you using? I am using Ublock Origins, Sponsorblock, RYD and Enhancer for YouTube. I will check later if I get the same message or not.

[-] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

I'll fucking use Vimeo if I have to.

[-] Anti_Weeb_Penguin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I never got this pop up (i use Firefox + Ublock)

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 year ago

It's not fully rolled out yet.

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[-] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What country are you in? I wonder if they're rolling it out to smaller markets to see how much backlash they get.

Time to get a federated video hosting service scaled up ASAP. But who could afford the bandwidth and storage? We need a stable torrent-based streaming solution I suppose.

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[-] AsRedAsMonkeysAss@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago
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[-] jon@lemmy.tf 7 points 1 year ago

Looks like I'm about to switch fully to YT-DL/Plex for the subscriptions I care about. Should be good until they start embedding ads into the video files anyway.

[-] mbi@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Is this real? The post title seems to imply it's something that might happen in the future?

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[-] TheProtagonist@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Invidious / piped.video is the way (as long as it continues to work)!

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