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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by tonytins@pawb.social to c/tech@pawb.social

The guy who used Midjourney to create an award-winning piece of AI art demands copyright protections.

Excuse me while I go grab my popcorn.

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[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 104 points 2 weeks ago

First off, stop calling him an AI artist.

[-] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

The term is apparently prompt-fondler now.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 21 points 2 weeks ago

Calling someone a prompt "engineer" should be punishable by law.

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

meanwhile startups: prompt coder/wizard!

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 8 points 2 weeks ago

please call them rockstars i want to see them suffer the way real programmers did

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[-] TheDorkfromYork@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago

You can make art using AI. I've seen artists use it to clean up line art, color, shade, fill in backgrounds, and more. AI is just a tool. Lots of people only use text prompts, which I agree is hardly controlling, but that is only a single way to interact with AI. You can do a lot with these models.

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

All this is true, but none of it is relevant to a guy who's demanding copyright protections and royalties for something Midjourney spat out.

[-] TheDorkfromYork@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago

I agree, but I wasn't sure if this comment was generally anti-AI or understanding of the nuance. For the record, AI scares me.

[-] NateNate60@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

But...

The AI is the artist!

Not sure what this other guy is doing though.

[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 60 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

One of the reasons I like AI art is that it's pretty settled law that something produced by purely "mechanical" means can't itself have copyright, since copyright requires both originality and a human author.

It seems like a reasonably compromise, the AI was created by hoovering up the commons, so anything it creates should belong to the commons. I expect a lot of lobbying in the future to try and change it though.

[-] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

And if AI work would be copyrighted by the "prompt artist" then all the artists whose work is in the training set can sue the prompter for profiting of their work without licensing fees. It would be a legal clusterfuck so it was pretty wise to side step the whole issue.

[-] Lexam@lemmy.ca 60 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'm in the same boat. Every time someone reads one of my comments and doesn't pay me for it, that's money out of my pocket. It's a hard life being an internet commenter these days.

[-] el_bhm@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

You laugh but I seriously think people should be getting a cut if they are building a non-open LLM by commenting.

Member how people defended free price of gmail? I member.

[-] AFreeLarryHoover@lemmy.world 48 points 2 weeks ago
[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

AI art might not be real, but Sonic giving birth to Borat is an extremely cool concept that people should be celebrated for drawing

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

Dude, you can’t end it in such a rad way and expect us to despise the prompt input guy.

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 33 points 2 weeks ago

This is actually the art bit, right? He’s doing conceptual art, like that Banksy that shredded itself upon sale.

[-] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 33 points 2 weeks ago

Oh no, the consequences of your own actions! That art competition should just add a rule "only copyrightable works"

[-] tonytins@pawb.social 12 points 2 weeks ago

Apparently, the competition was a year before that ruling.

[-] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

And he's still crying about it?

[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The "artist":

[-] TommySoda@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

"Famous AI 'Prompter' Says He's Losing Millions of Dollars From People Stealing His Stolen Work."

Seems like you did this to yourself, bud. You're just mad you didn't get paid enough for stealing.

[-] Repelle@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

“Famous” is accurate, but change to “Infamous” and it’s perfect.

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[-] sag@lemm.ee 23 points 2 weeks ago

If he is considered "Artist" I am too.

[-] unmagical@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 weeks ago

How is he losing millions of dollars? If you're just trying to get into the art fraud money laundering scheme thing then make an NFT and find an idiot. But just the creation of a piece (be it traditional, digital, or "ai") doesn't entitle you to a payout. And if you're just complaining about the dissemination of the piece you asked someone else's computer to generate for you without a kick back link tax, well--that's not how copyright, the internet, or normal human correspondence works.

[-] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Ah, good ol' music industry math. "1,000 people downloaded a picture that I created, and I wanted to charge $1,000 a piece, so I lost $1,000,000." In reality of course charging $0.02 would've stopped most sales.

[-] unmagical@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, articles are including the image because they can. If a judge had instead ruled that AI generated works were copyrightable (and to the prompter, not the designer of the tool, owner of the hardware, or even the tool itself) the end result would be that very few orgs would include his piece instead just opting for generating their own (now copyrightable) image to use as an example. He'd still get nothing, but then significantly fewer people would see his "work."

[-] morgunkorn@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 2 weeks ago

I'm collecting all his tears to cook a big pot of pasta. Not sure how anyone would make "millions of dollars" from a single artwork anyway.

[-] drwho@beehaw.org 4 points 2 weeks ago

Money laundering.

[-] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago

its probably fictionally calculated like sales are to piracy. just because someone pirated a game/software doesnt mean they would have bought said thing at asking price had the piracy option not existed.

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[-] OmegaMouse@pawb.social 17 points 2 weeks ago

Lol, lmao even

[-] Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 weeks ago

How much did the real artists lose out on in order to train the AI?

[-] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 16 points 2 weeks ago

[Nelson Laugh]

[-] SacredHeartAttack@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

lol get fucked loser. (the "artist", not OP)

[-] CoolGirl586@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago
[-] nick@midwest.social 10 points 2 weeks ago
[-] drdiddlybadger@pawb.social 9 points 2 weeks ago

He is not being the neighborly neighbor Mr Rogers wanted him to be.

[-] laranis@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 weeks ago

Read headline, ok. Look for Onion source... fuck.

[-] blackjam_alex@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

He's losing imaginary, A.I generated money.

[-] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 6 points 2 weeks ago

Oh I sure hope he sets a bad legal precedent for AI "art".

[-] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago

I can generate Mandelbrot pictures that no one else has ever seen. That doesn't make me an artist.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Ah yes, the incredibly popular pro-AI pro-copyright stance. He's going to get very far with that one.

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