Fuckin space garbage is what it is.

Yes it was impressive that they landed a rocket again once, but the quantity of launches and satellites is doing nothing good for anyone. It should've been a stepping stone for better technology, but instead they're just mining money. Privately owned space engineering is a disgrace to humanity.

Space engineering used to unite even the worst opponents as with the international space station, but now those institutions are underfunded, while billionaire space-musk can shoot his loads into the atmosphere without any regard to the rest of the worlds population living inside said sphere.

Tax the asshole already.

starlink wouldn't have a leg to stand on (in the US, can't speak for elsewhere) if isps were held to installing/maintaining/upgrading infrastructure that was already paid for by the federal government decades ago and then the isps just didn't do the work.

Sending so many satellites also requires so many rocket launchers that Google passed on it because it was too polluting.

Starlink is the poster child of "fuck you, I got mine."

Don't forget all the fun chemicals they leave in the atmosphere when they deorbit.

"Don't worry, you can just build one on the moon. You can even pay me to use my rockets to get there." - Elon

I'm sure Musk is perfectly willing to turn certain constellations off at specific times... For a price, of course.

To me Elon Musk is like the real-life, slightly less dramatic and slightly less evil Handsome Jack out of Borderlands

If it can interfere with large aperture ground telescopes.. it would be a shame if those ground telescopes grew transmitters and started interfering back.

Is it weird I agree these are terrible and yet also hope this spurs the end of ground based observation in favor of a larger orbital presence?

Isn't Starlink also too expensive because you have to replace the satellites every 5 years? As in you'd have to sell to basically everybody on earth to be profitable. And they charge 50Euros a month, almost twice as much as I currently pay, and I'm satisfied with my current provider.

Great. Musk is building a Sophon.

Down em all then. We need a satellite with lasers to take out other satellites: whether it's Russia's, China's, or Elon's.

Disclaimer - I have a starlink terminal. I feel that the complaints should be made to the various governments that haven't mandated modern terrestrial technologies to those of us outside metro areas.

I live 14km/9m from a town with underground fibre optic. The best I can hope for is geo-synch satellite with data caps and latency around 600ms. I will never see fibre optic rolled out here. I can sort of understand, it's quite expensive and needs to be balanced against income from operations to justify it. But they rolled out electricity, and they rolled out PSTN, so the justification was found in those cases.

So, Starlink found a need and filled it. Had governments filled the need instead, the problem wouldn't exist.

elon musk is a terrorist that will make astronomy harder if not impossible if he trashes orbits too much

Fuck Leon Skum

Don't worry, greed ensures that Kessler Syndrome will get them in the not too distant future. Sure hope you aren't reliant on GPS or other satellite services, but at least, for a shining moment, shareholders got some value. /s

All worth it so lord Musk can push his shitty memes to remote tribes in the Amazon.

Honestly astronomy from earth is notoriously difficult, for various reasons.

• there's already a lot of light pollution, due to atmospheric light dispersion, so finding a good spot for telescopes is already difficult.
• there's the issue that images become blurred, again because atmosphere.
• We already have telescopes in space, why no re-use them with an additional camera?

Spaceflight is unstoppable at this point. I look at the colonization of Mars like a distillation process: we remove all of the restless assholes and billionaires from Earth, and they leave us and leave us the fuck alone. That's a good thing; We should support it.

I'm confused because band pass filters exist. Can they not add a filter to eliminate the frequencies that starlink uses?

Also, the starlink satellites use phased array antennas, guess that wasn't a great idea either.

Alien 1: "I don't get it, we've been trying to contact them for ages now. You don't think they sacrificed their chance to join the interstellar community in order to have better phone reception or something, did they?"

Alien 2: "Well maybe if you didn't keep sticking probes up their asses, they'd be more communicative!"