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[-] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago
[-] BlitzoTheOisSilent@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Fun fact: The Navy uses the affirmative "aye" or "aye aye" as opposed to "roger" like the Army/Air Force/etc because of similar slang origins. Basically, sailors used to use the word "roger" to mean "fuck," both as an insult and as a way to identify women they had been with while in port.

"Yeah, I rogered her last night at the tavern," kind of thing. But as sailors began to respond to officers using "Roger that (fuck that)," the Navy came down and made "aye aye" the official affirmative response for their personnel.

And even then, "aye" is simply a "I understand" whereas "aye aye," means "I understand and will carry out X."

The US Navy also launched an investigative unit during the 1800s (I wanna say the 1880s?) to find homosexual sailors and kick them out of the Navy. The unit only lasted a couple of years before being shut down, as the only people volunteering for the unit were homosexual sailors. 😆

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 105 points 4 days ago

I've never heard it used as an insult, more as a very mild expletive.

[-] Khrux@ttrpg.network 12 points 4 days ago

I thought the same. I assumed it was just people censoring themselves when they wanted to say son of a bitch in front a child, or anyone else who it's taboo to swear in front of.

[-] eezeebee@lemmy.ca 77 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Something about taking prostitutes on voyages across the sea in the olden days. You'd romance her under the cannons and the bastard child would be a "son of a gun". I don't remember where I learned this so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Edit: I looked it up and got some details wrong, but pretty close

[-] SnotFlickerman 103 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Son_of_a_gun

The phrase potentially has its origin in a Royal Navy direction that pregnant women aboard smaller naval vessels give birth in the space between the broadside guns, in order to keep the gangways and crew decks clear. Admiral William Henry Smyth wrote in his 1867 book, The Sailor's Word-Book: "Son of a gun, an epithet conveying contempt in a slight degree, and originally applied to boys born afloat, when women were permitted to accompany their husbands to sea; one admiral declared he literally was thus cradled, under the breast of a gun-carriage."

Checks out. Very interesting.

Since its naval, Jimmy Buffett comes to mind.

Son of a son of a gun.


EDIT: too much time was spent on this

[-] itsathursday@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago

I always thought “gun” was a replacement for “bitch” and was a way of saying it without saying it.

[-] bamfic@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Minced oath

[-] solidgrue@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

If you're wrong then I don't wanna be right.

[-] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

I long to fornicate with many a sea bound trollop, under the blazing fire of a worthy vessels’ cannons

[-] Johanno@feddit.org 17 points 4 days ago

If you are American, no. If you are from a civilised country, yes.

[-] Twitches@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago

You got us, you son of a gun!

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 38 points 4 days ago

I said "Maaaaan... My dad's not a firearm!" And I threw it on the ground!

[-] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago
[-] SnotFlickerman 7 points 4 days ago

He's got that look because the loaded gun with the safety off that he just threw on the ground triggered and shot his dad.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago

It's just a softened version of "son of a bitch" but I agree with others, never heard of it as an insult

[-] spiffy_spaceman@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

I've heard an old man use it this way a long time ago in the west. You would only hear it from someone who's very old or thinks they're a polite cowboy.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Southerners use it in a very endearing way that is hard to describe. Only ever in a funny and harmless way, to my knowledge

[-] monsterpiece42@reddthat.com 3 points 2 days ago

They use it similar to "rascal"

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago
[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 days ago

I heard it in the south. Tennessee.

[-] palebluethought@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

I'm sure some parents use it as a substitute to avoid saying "son of a bitch" in front of their kids, if that helps

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago
[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 11 points 4 days ago

I have never heard it used as an insult.

[-] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

First I heard of that.

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