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First and foremost, they are fake internet points. You should not be caring about votes.
Instance admins can pole the database to get that info but I doubt you can as a community mod.
I mean it is what it is, I'm not invested in the points I just don't like the idea that someone is hurting the discoverability of my posts.
But like yeah, whatever I guess.
It is weird that people are petty about that sorta thing. You got banned, big whoop, make a new account an move on with your life.
Exactly, especially when their the one who started this whole mess in the first place. They were pretty hostile up front so I think a screw might be loose or something. I dunno.
Honestly, I’m really tired of this take. Humans are social creatures, it is normal to care about what others think of us and our contributions to the social fabric. Would you stay in a community where you were only ever downvoted because ‘you shouldn’t care about votes’? That sounds psychotic, or trolling. If somebody followed a stranger down the street shouting you suck every minute, would you tell them they shouldn’t be caring about that?
Not to pick on your comment specifically, I see this phrase all over and I know the intent is not to let online stuff affect your real life/determine your happiness. But the phrasing make it sound like people are crazy to care to care at all, when for the majority of human development the opposite is true and you be crazy not to.
There have been other reports of this recently:
Downvotes on kbin are public, but kbin doesn't federate downvotes from Lemmy so unless the stalker(s) are on kbin you can't see them yourself. You profile on kbin looks significantly cleaner than your Lemmy profile... so it doesn't tell us much.
Votes in Lemmy's DB are also not anonymous, so instance admins (or people who run their own instance) could investigate this with direct db queries... it's not exposed via any user-facing API. If you think you're being stalked by a group of sock-puppeted mass-downvote accounts, you could contact the admins via one of the mechanisms listed at https://mastodon.world/about. The email there points to a ticketing system used by the admins I think. Of course, they may be too busy to investigate, but they also may be interested in banning sock-puppets before it gets out of hand.
This is so extremely helpful, thank you so much. I hope you sleep on the nice cool side of the pillow tonight.
That's really weird actually... I'm browsing my posts both here on Lemmy and on Kbin and there's a serious discrepancy between the two like take this very post for example, on Kbin I see 25up and 6down whereas on Lemmy I see 26up and 19down. The upvote difference I think is attributed to the fact that Lemmy give you 1up by default and from the looks of things, Kbin doesn't. What I don't understand is the difference in downvotes, there's 13down that aren't being accounted for on Kbin, I wonder why... 🤔 And it's not just this post, it's a lot of my posts, one I made on the Mass Effect community has 17up and 1down on Lemmy and on Kbin it's sitting at 1up and 0down also of note, the amount of comments is off, Kbin has 14 and Lemmy has 18. Very odd. I presume if it's happening to me, then it's probably happening to others as well.
- Kbin doesn't federate downvotes from Lemmy, and I believe it has a smaller user population than Lemmy (or at least one that generates fewer total downvotes). So you'd expect downvote counts to be wildly different.
- On upvote counts, federation is just real flaky right now. I don't have GitHub issue links handy, but there are several major issues detailing posts, comments, and votes Federating unreliably. You can pretty easily extrapolate that to expect vote counts to vary by 20%-60% from server to server depending on how many federation messages a particular server decided to drop on the floor on any given day.
Lemmy is pretty cool, but it's a lot rough around the edges right now. It's improving fast, but if you break out the magnifying glass, you're gonna find problems.
I agree that Lemmy and the Fediverse is a really awesome concept and I'm glad to be here. And yeah, I just won't worry about it then, thanks for being so insightful. You've been a big help.
I just scrolled through 4 days of your posts, and none of them are downvoted.
Maybe the vote system is messed up again.
🤔 That's strange, what are you using to view the instance? On desktop at least when viewing the activity breakdown 95% of my posts from the past 2 days have 1 dislike. But maybe you're right.
I'm on Kbin, using desktop/browser. And I did see that there was 1 downvote I missed here, https://kbin.social/m/videogamebutts@lemmy.world/t/261506/In-Game-Street-Fighter-VI-Lily/votes/down
We can see downvotes on kbin, not sure lemmy is the same.
Yeah, we can see the same here and I'm seeing multiple posts that contain that one downvote. Kinda strange that it seems to be showing us different numbers. But I dunno, it's not too big a deal really.
The rep points are messed up on both platforms.
I guess when they decide an account has X number of downvotes that they restrict our access, we can worry about it. But right now, up/down has no real meaning.
Even on reddit I remember people getting mass downvotes and nothing ever happened to those accounts.
Take every down vote as a way to remind yourself that "someone is thinking about me". :)
My little stalker, how quaint. Anyways, thanks for letting me know. :)
We can see downvotes on kbin, not sure lemmy is the same.
Only from kbin, or possibly even just kbin.social (or whatever one's local instance is). If you look closely, you'll notice that every downvote you can see on kbin is from a kbin user, which is because kbin doesn't federate downvotes from Lemmy.
If you lookat OP's Lemmy profile, you can see a moderate amount of consistent downvoting: https://lemmy.world/u/Call_Me_Maple?page=1&sort=New&view=Posts
That explains why the up/down vote feels broken.
I'm looking at Kbin and at least recent downvotes haven't seem to have registered there yet. Even ones from the past day.
Nothing. 🤷♂️
Well at least I asked I guess. 🤷♂️
Will you can find proof and show it to the admins. Outside of that, there's nothing you can do.
How am I supposed to find proof exactly? I'd love to, I just don't know how.
I don't know. Your best move is to move on and ignore.
Which was my plan in the first place but I figured I'd ask to see if anything could be done. Oh well I guess. It doesn't really bother me but if you had a spider making a nest in your home, wouldn't you wanna get rid of it too?
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