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submitted 4 months ago by nicknonya to c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world

the way i understand it hibernating an OS dumps ram to a file and powers off, so could it be possible to run two OSs "simultaneously" by alternating between hibernations?

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[-] cleverusername@lemm.ee 24 points 4 months ago

Probably easier to just run one, or both, as a VM.

[-] nicknonya 8 points 4 months ago

i know i was asking if it was theoretically possible

[-] Successful_Try543@feddit.de 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yes, this works. However, you can not (or should not if you possibly could?) modify data on partitions mounted by the hibernating OS. If E.g.Windows and Linux are installed and Windows is hibernating, the NTFS partitions can only be mounted read-only under Linux.

[-] nicknonya 6 points 4 months ago

yea i know i meant it as a way to speed up dualbooting. cos having to shut down an os to get to the other one is a bit annoying

[-] Rooki@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

If i may ask what OS and for what do you dual boot? Windows and Linux? Gaming?

[-] nicknonya 5 points 4 months ago

linux mint and windows for gaming

[-] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

May I ask, is there a reason you don't use proton/wine instead of Windows? There's lots of downsides to windows nowadays

[-] nicknonya 10 points 4 months ago

proton and wine are great but far from perfect.
i wanted to play a small indie game demo just a few days ago, installed it through proton and it didn't have audio. ran it through wine and that was even worse. the overhead of a vm is too much for my machine to run games well

[-] Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago

If you tried running it outside steam through wine, you should try again using GloriousEggroll's wine instead of default.

Wine isn't really made for games and (iirc) doesn't include support for a lot of commonly used graphic/audio api's, which GE's version does.

Or if it is through steam and it still didn't work correctly, you could try his version of proton. It gets more frequent updates and some other fixes as well.

Or you really just found a game that doesn't work under proton, in which case you could open an issue so they can fix it at some point

[-] TheOneCurly@lemm.ee 15 points 4 months ago
[-] litchralee@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

This entire series by Cathode Ray Dude is a wonderful dive into the world of PC boot sequence, for the folks interested in a touch of embedded architecture. His delivery is also on-point, given the complexity and obscurity of the topics.

From this video alone (41:15):

The way this worked was: they installed Xen hypervisor on your PC, put Hyperspace in a VM and Windows in another. Now, you either know what a VM is -- and I don't need to explain why this is terrifying -- or you don't and I need to make you understand so you never independently invent this.

And (43:59):

This is just a bad idea, ok? Virtualization belongs in data centers. Putting some poor bastard's whole OS in a VM is a prank. It's some Truman Show shit. It's disassembling the coach's car and putting it back together inside the gym. It's not remotely worth the trouble and it probably didn't work.

[-] leaky_shower_thought@feddit.nl 8 points 4 months ago

in theory, I think you would also need a shared component that enforces the alternating "rules" that both OS understands.

that component also needs to be always awake so it will facilitate hand overs like an OS of OSes.

[-] Guest_User@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I think that would just be a hypervisor

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Its not something ive come across but its almost like youre describing hotswapping Operating Systems?

Someone else mentioned this, but your likely best bet is to have virtual machines instead. If you need windows on occasion but use linux as your daily driver, use a VM on the linux host?

If its more for like gaming and such, youll be able to do VMs still but you will likely need an additional GPU - a bogstandard one just for video output for the host, and then the main GPU is “given” to the VM to use

[-] librejoe@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

You would be basically making virtual machines at that point.

[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 2 points 4 months ago

Pretty sure I did this accidentally years ago on a macbook that was dual booting windows.

[-] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 2 points 4 months ago

Yes it is possible, I’ve done it before by accident. The problem I ran into is I was using a shared partition for data storage. At the time, if you didn’t properly shut down Windows it would not unmount the disks, and I couldn’t access them from Linux. I’m sure there was probably a way around that, but not without making the hibernated Windows angry.

[-] nullpotential@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago

Isn't that basically what passthrough does?

https://looking-glass.io/

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