And this is literally why people like myself hide my cancer from my employer.
US discrimination laws are a fucking joke.
I don't know about that. He took like four months off for cancer treatment. And he's going to need to take more off for more treatment. Not sure how you can hide that from your employer.
3 months. End of October to start of February. It shouldn't matter though. How long should he have worked there before he's allowed to? Like if he was CPO for five years and then got cancer, would that have been OK? At what point does it become not ok?
Also he's got history there and this promotion was due to that. I think they just expected from him to take the reigns on some stuff and then wasn't there because of the cancer treatment which is 100% understandable. Mozilla isn't going to collapse in 3 months.
On the day Teixeira returned to his job, it's claimed, he was instructed to lead a company-wide layoff of 50 people, 40 of whom were in his MozProd organization.
That's just shit management from above. That is pure retaliation.
Aren't you allowed to provide a doctor's note that does not specify the ailment?
FMLA. But that's unpaid.
After you spend down your allotted PTO, yes.
Mildly surprised that someone in a position at that level wouldn’t have at minimum short term disability coverage, at least as an option. It’s hardly expensive.
Independently on US laws, It's funny how people in the technosphere still believe that Mozilla are the good guys.
We need to, because they are the only ones fighting against Chrome monopoly. It's so sad to read news like this
I don't understand your comment. They are the good guys browser-wise but that doesn't mean they are good guys everywhere.
They're not the good guys browser wise, they're just slightly less shitty than Google, which was (still is probably?) their biggest customer.
How do you arrive at that conclusion?
Mozilla has consistently supported user privacy and the open web, which is consistent with their mission statement. They also need to pay the bills, and they've done that in a very unobtrusive way. Look at Pocket, which is easy to disable and is reasonably privacy friendly (for what it does). Look at Mozilla VPN, which is just repackaged Mullvad, essentially the gold standard for privacy-friendly VPN.
Yeah, Mozilla does a lot of stuff I disagree with and I'd run it differently, but I think they do enough good that they're on the good end of the spectrum. Using Firefox isn't the lesser of evils, it's a decent option among good options. Maybe it's not the best for you, but it's pretty good.
We're purity testing Mozilla now? What's up with that...There are no "good" or "bad" guys, this isn't a morality play. It's fucking browsers, bro, and to equate Mozilla to Microsoft or Google is insane.
I've actually heard it the other way: if your employer knows you have cancer or other disability, they have to try even harder to fire you to ensure that they could survive a lawsuit.
Yeah, I'm gonna wait a bit before bringing out the pitchforks.
A plaintiff in a civil suit can allege anything they want, but that doesn't mean they're being 100% truthful. Any lawyer will slant the facts as much as possible to make their client look as injured as they can to garner the most sympathy- that's just lawyering 101. We have his version of events but don't have Mozilla's, but the fact that he's publicly shit-talking the company (rather than let the legal process play out) doesn't cast him in a good light IMO.
Did you read the article? It seems like they had a plan to make him CEO, he got sick, they quickly found an interim CEO, and the moment he got back:
On the day Teixeira returned to his job, it's claimed, he was instructed to lead a company-wide layoff of 50 people, 40 of whom were in his MozProd organization.
Followed by:
"Mr Teixeira had ethical concerns regarding the layoffs because they were primarily motivated by a desire to increase profit margins at Mozilla, which was already operating at a profit," the complaint claims. "Mr Teixeira viewed this as antithetical to Mozilla’s values as espoused on their website: 'We're backed by a non-profit, which means we prioritize the interests of people first, not corporate profits.'"
They continue to retaliate against him by denying him bonus, and trying to maneuver him into a demotion. They even had the shitty audacity to say like "well this frees up time for your cancer treatments" which at that point he wasn’t getting anymore.
The complaint claims that Teixeira, appointed in August 2022, helped reverse the decade-long decline of Firefox, which generates about 90 percent of Mozilla's revenue and is the company's only profitable product. He's further credited with growing Mozilla's advertising business, and AI capabilities, and with reducing investment in the money-losing Pocket service.
Sounds to me like they’re just being really shitty to this guy who has done a lot for the company in general and was on his way to CEO before the poor behavior of these two (Chambers and Chehak).
Yes, yes I did. That doesn't change anything I said. You've only repeated his claims (which his complaint can say literally anything), we don't have Mozilla's side, and he shouldn't be saying a word about this suit to the press.
We do have the additional context outside the story that under the interim CEO Mozilla has made two other unpopular decisions:
Yup, I'm guessing there's some sort of GoFundMe angle here.
That may be warranted, I just want more facts first. People like to play the victim to garner sympathy, and I want to make sure that's not happening here.
Any decent lawyer will tell you to shut the fuck up once you've filed a suit, so as I see it there are three possible scenarios here:
Yup, 3 is basically what I'm thinking, but potentially with Teixiera looking for money in some way (i.e. maybe getting hired elsewhere?).
But I want to hear Mozilla's side before really forming that opinion. I've heard Teixiera's side of the story, and I've looked into potential motivations, now I want to hear the opposing side to decide which is the simplest explanation.
I mean it sucks for him, but after having been away for three months with more leave time coming the company probably doesn't have any obligation to keep him hired.
At least that's the case here in Switzerland (if you worked for a company long enough) and I'd be surprised if the US had better protections.
Actually Swiss disability provisions are worse than US provisions (worse than most industrial nations, btw)
I think that depends.
If he's accurately representing the reality, he has every right to make behavior he considers unethical from an organization that takes donations known.
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