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[-] prole@beehaw.org 119 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's almost as if there's an entire class of (inordinately wealthy) people who have no reason to exist in the capacity that they do.

CEO's are so important to the functioning of a product that they don't even have to fucking understand the product itself. Why not give them shitloads of money?

[-] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 98 points 1 year ago

Stack Overflow has a CEO? WTF for? It's a repository of information. All the LLMs have already ripped a copy of the site, so where were they planning to generate revenue?

I hope someone starts a version and integrates it with activitypub and then users can donate towards the hosting costs.

Stack Overflow is supposed to be the wiki of developers, not a fucking business. I hate these greedy fucks. "let's make money from other people's time and effort" 🤮🤮🤮

[-] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 71 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There is https://codidact.com/ which is an open source alternative to Stack Overflow

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 year ago

Thanks for sharing

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Have they incorporated the data from StackExchange?

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 56 points 1 year ago

It seems you're unclear on what a CEO is. Even non profit organizations have CEOs (though stackoverflow is very much a for-profit company). A CEO is just the head decision maker in an organization.

At the end of the day, SO has server hosting costs, and they have to cover those costs somehow. That makes them a business.

[-] lucien@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Ah, wonderful capitalism working as intended. Everything comes down to money.

[-] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 43 points 1 year ago

Stack Overflow is supposed to be the wiki of developers, not a fucking business.

Joel Spolsky and Jeff Atwood founded it, and it was sold to Prosus, a Netherlands-based consumer internet conglomerate, on 2 June 2021 for $1.8 billion.

I guess someone would like some of that money back.

[-] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 19 points 1 year ago

lol almost $2 billion for a website with almost no ads and that makes almost no revenue? Especially now that they closed the (paid) jobs section?

ROI in 10000 years?

[-] abhibeckert@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Valuation is usually based on potential revenue, not actual revenue. A $2 billion valuation would have been about $50 per user. It seems reasonable Stack Exchange should be able to make that much money per user somehow over the entire future existence of the company... if it's run well. Which doesn't seem to be happening from where I'm sitting.

[-] SavinaRoja@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Valuation is usually based on potential revenue, not actual revenue

How similar this is to how capitalists look at natural "resources". "This website[wetland] sure is great. Lots of people[animals] are loving it. And it's a vital part of the development[water] cycle... But it's just not making me any money!"

[-] Rakn@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm unsure of many people know that StackOverflow also had enterprise offerings. Our company has their own StackOverflow instance with very specific content to our tech stacks.

[-] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago

Yes but they stopped offering that years ago.

So, no more job classifieds, no saas, only ads from views... I don't see where it can be profitable like that

[-] Rakn@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

No they didn't? My company just recently introduced it.

[-] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago

wasn't it like 7-8 years ago an offer to host a custom community? Like $250 per site (while now i see their enteprise offer is only intranet and is priced per user)

[-] OneRedFox@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Oh, I didn't realize that it was sold, but that would explain a lot. Where do we go after it crashes and burns?

[-] SeeJayEmm@lemmy.procrastinati.org 10 points 1 year ago

I wish resources like this were a public benefit corporation vs a for profit.

Federated also works.

[-] arthur@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

That will become necessary soon, since their "business model" lost it's meaning after the LLM's

[-] rainh@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

Lol I doubt it. LLMs are useless for the kinds of questions stack overflow is useful for.

[-] fuzzywolf23@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

And no SO means worse LLMs. Chatgpt relies on scrapes of SO, reddit, forums and GitHub discussion pages.

[-] arthur@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And the scrapping stage already happened. A new one will be useful only after enough human-made content is added, or it a major change in tech happen.

[-] housepanther@lemmy.goblackcat.com 65 points 1 year ago

I've found that the case for most CEOs in technology which is why I call them techbros. Arguably, they don't even know business all that well either.

[-] Quexotic@beehaw.org 42 points 1 year ago

Of course not. They aren't technologists, they're capitalists. Their primary concern is capital.

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 17 points 1 year ago

Didn’t even know there was a stack overflow strike.

[-] bedrooms@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

This one actually I don't understand. SO has a robust voting system to turn down bad answers. Also, many questions suffer from no answer. So, from the OP's perspective AI assistance is a positive.

The resistance indeed comes from human moderators and answer-ers. And they are ridiculed by (often novice) OPs on Reddit etc.

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