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The posts are ominous.

“Pick a side, or YOU are next,” wrote conservative talkshow host Dan Bongino on the Truth Social media platform in the aftermath of Donald Trump’s 34 felony convictions.

The replies were even more so.

“Dan, seriously now,” one user wrote in response to Bongino. “I see no way out of all this mess without bloodshed. When you can rig an election, then weaponize the government and the courts against a former President, what other alternative is there? I’m almost 70 and would rather die than live in tyranny.”

That’s a common version of how many people on the US right reacted to the ex-president’s verdict, drawing on a “mirror world” where Trump is seen as the selfless martyr to powerful state forces and Joe Biden is the dangerous autocrat wielding the justice system as his own personal plaything and a threat to US democracy.

Calls for revenge, retribution and violence littered the rightwing internet as soon as Trump’s guilty verdict came down, all predicated on the idea that the trial had been a sham designed to interfere with the 2024 election. Some posted online explicitly saying it was time for hangings, executions and civil wars.

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[-] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 173 points 3 months ago

The human race is so dumb. We could be building spaceships and exploring the stars and the depths of the oceans. Instead we are being manipulated by propaganda to fight with each other while nefarious forces wrestle for power. This timeline sucks….

[-] SandmanXC@lemmy.world 35 points 3 months ago

I've been thinking the same thing every day for the last 10 years or so..

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago

As a child of the 80s... yeah.

[-] pezhore@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 months ago

David Bowie and Prince were holding this all together. When they went, the world lost its mind.

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[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

Let's start with housing? I'm all for exploration, but we don't need 3 or 4 billionaires wasting resources, and innovation with non-compete contracts, when one central agency would be more efficient, freeing up resources to fix the logistics of feeding everyone, and housing everyone.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 160 points 3 months ago

Nonsense. They aren't mobilizing. Loud pundits are telling them to mobilize.

Where are they gathering? They weren't even outside Trump's trial in any sizable numbers.

This is some fearmongering bullshit based on stupid nonsense people like fucking Dan Bongino of all people on said on fucking Truth Social. Even most of MAGA world isn't on Truth Social.

[-] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 49 points 3 months ago

i mean, they already mobilized and attacked once. January 6 was not a spur of the moment thing. if you watched the hearings for it you'd know that the fbi knew about j6 for months and warned everyone they could.

presumably there's much the same kind of planning happening right now.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 30 points 3 months ago

That planning was coordinated, in part, with the administration in power. Which can't be done this time.

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 months ago

Problem is there's a high likelyhood it will be done come Nov 2024/Jan 2025.

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[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

That entire "revolution" was halted by a single gunshot. Hopefully they don't injure innocent bystanders when they check again if they're brave enough for terrorism.

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 31 points 3 months ago

Tucker Carlson, the rightwing media heavyweight, waxed apocalyptic: “Import the third world, become the third world. That’s what we just saw. This won’t stop Trump. He’ll win the election if he’s not killed first. But it does mark the end of the fairest justice system in the world. Anyone who defends this verdict is a danger to you and your family.

Seriously wtf. These people are trying to get people killed.

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[-] ax_xa@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Where are they gathering?

I would check Waffle House.

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[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 98 points 3 months ago

I'm not really sure it should be up to 70 year olds whether we have a civil war. It's the young people that will have to live in it's wake, should it happen.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 70 points 3 months ago

You can apply that logic to most decisions this country makes.

Why the hell are we letting 70 year olds dictate energy policy? They're not gonna see the full brunt of climate change.

Why are they involved in foreign policy? They're not going off to war.

Economics? Most of the people they talk to are retired or rich. tf do they know about making rent in 2024?

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 46 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Honestly, this may sound controversial... but if we deny teens the vote, I'm not certain why the hell we allow retirees to vote.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 months ago

Can't vote for the first 18 years of your life? Can't vote for the last 18 either (based on average life expectancy), just watch how things improve dramatically if such a measure is put in place.

Same logic with holding elected positions, if people younger than X can't be elected then people older than (life expectancy - X) can't either. And yes, I realize that it leaves very few years for men to become president in the US' case and that's not a bad thing at all.

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 months ago

Anything that motivates increasing the national average life expectancy is a good thing

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[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Sadly that’s pretty much always the case with war, the youth pay the bill for the elderly

[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

And the poor pay the bill for the rich and powerful.

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[-] Darkard@lemmy.world 89 points 3 months ago

"When you can rig an election, then weaponize the government and the courts against a former President, what other alternative is there? I’m almost 70 and would rather die than live in tyranny."

  • Ivan, Moscow
[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 49 points 3 months ago

I guarantee there are some genuine conservative asshats who fervently hold that belief.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 30 points 3 months ago

Probably, but I wouldn't expect them to be able to spell half those words.

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[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 59 points 3 months ago

I hope the country does reconstruction properly after Civil War II instead of coddling traitors and letting them put roughshod Confederate statues in town squares.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

They didn't put up the statues. Most of them specifically said to never make statues of them, such as both Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee. Woodrow Wilson wrote a good portion of "Southern Revisionist History," using his Yale History Credentials, and ordered the erection of almost all those statues during his presidency.

I agree with the rest of your sentiment.

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 57 points 3 months ago

these victims of indoctrination are so mindfucked as to think they're going to do a single goddamn thing vs the us military.

after getting nothing done on 1/6 vs a handful of capitol police who mostly stepped aside and ushered them in. good luck, bumpkins. i guess

[-] machinin@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

I think you underestimate the number of military personnel that support Trump. The lack of military or police support as our Congress was invaded was no accident.

[-] card797@champserver.net 19 points 3 months ago

Well, the commander in chief at the time was involved in the conspiracy to commit treason. They definitely delayed the military response themselves. I don't think the President Biden will want such a delayed response this time.

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[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 49 points 3 months ago

No one is mobilizing shit, people are still fed and clothed, housed and have jobs and still have their entertainment...these loudmouths aren't going to do shit. They just talk a lot but at the end of the day, they're not going to start shit.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 26 points 3 months ago

It's exactly the same as all of us going "hurdur guillotine time."

We vent about it, but no one is actually going to get violent.

Imagine though? "Global history classes 2040: America had 2 civil wars. One was over literally owning human beings and the other was over an orange man who could never have enough attention. America is a silly place that you should never go to, just laugh at from afar."

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 24 points 3 months ago

Well, it'd be more like "the 2nd was a proxy conflict over a figurehead after news networks were coopted by conservative billionaires and used for 30+ years to sow seeds of stochastic terrorism after laws regarding lying on TV were eliminated."

[-] fiercekitten@lemm.ee 19 points 3 months ago

They kinda are, though. Some mobilized on Jan 6. Some have been going out and showing open displays of nazi hate, complete with sieg heil salutes. Some have been threatening drag queen story hour at the libraries by standing outside with guns strapped to their backs and hips (because we all know that libraries are the most dangerous place for these guys -- too many facts in books i guess). Some are open-carrying at polling places during voting.

Some are shooting up Planned Parenthoods. Some are setting pride centers on fire. Some are going after non-christian places of worship.

It's all happened.

But when they do this stuff -- when they show us who they are and try to intimidate us and terrorize us, believe them. They are dangerous.

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[-] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

No one ever stormed the capitol... /s

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[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

They wouldn't wear a paper mask to save their own family. They're not going to drop 100 pounds and die for their asshole king.

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[-] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 43 points 3 months ago

You guys don't understand, this time they're double-super-mega-serious, not like all the other times these overly fearful ammosexuals talked a good game from behind their screens but completely failed to follow up in the real world.

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[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 36 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

don't underestimate armed fascists like people are doing ITT, or you might end up in a deeper fascism type situation.

fascists have to be dealt with asap.

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[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 36 points 3 months ago

I've never wanted someone to die from aggressive pancreatic cancer until Trump

[-] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

I disagree. During the middle of one of his rambling, windbag rants at his largest nazi rally, he needs to have a Grand Mal seizure where he visibly pisses and shits himself, immediately followed by a near-fatal stroke that leaves him as a drooling vegetable on life support. May he be fully conscious while completely incapacitated and unable to speak as a team of brown-skinned, LGBTQ+-and-proud-of-it nurses take turns being forgetful about emptying his colostomy bag while an AI bot scours the internet reading aloud every legit criticism of his entire pathetic life until, after enduring many, many years of this treatment, an obsessed fan finally works his way onto the night janitorial staff so he can get in the room alone with The Donald and live out his fantasy of making a human-centipede-like union by engaging in a "perfect" 69, causing DJT to die while asphyxiating on crazy janitor cock which, in turn, causes the janitor to choke himself to death on Don's pathetic dick resulting in the final act of indignity as the janitor releases his bowels directly onto Trump's face just before he finally loses consciousness.

May the last thing Trump ever sees, as he chokes to death on smelly cock, be an extreme closeup of the hairy, unwashed ass of a MAGA lunatic as it pisses down Don's throat and reenacts "2 Girls, One Cup" directly into his eyes.

[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 10 points 3 months ago

Y...you ok, bruh?

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[-] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago

Trump seems to bring out the worst in everyone.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

"It's not you I hate, Trump. I hate what I became because of you."

"Oh, wait, no, I do also hate you."

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[-] garretble@lemmy.world 33 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Guy in a MAGA hat, running: "...the US is under threat..."

Goose, chasing: "under threat by who, motherfucker??"

[-] aberrate_junior_beatnik@midwest.social 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

One thing to note is that Republicans have been talking like this for years. Minion Death Cult (tagline "The World Is Ending. Your Uncle’s Facebook Feed Is Responsible. We’re Documenting it.") have coined "Minion's Law", which is that right-wing comments on a news story will have at least one person calling for civil war.

Does this mean we are at zero risk for a second civil war? Of course not. But finding people online calling for civil war isn't sufficient cause to be worried; there needs to be at least some evidence of mobilization, as there was leading up to January 6th (for instance).

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

pick a side, or YOU are next

So if I don’t a pick a side I’m first in line?

Stupid. Obviously he means pick his side or they’re going to do bad things to you.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 3 months ago

“Dan, seriously now,” one user wrote in response to Bongino. “I see no way out of all this mess without bloodshed. When you can rig an election, then weaponize the government and the courts against a former President, what other alternative is there? I’m almost 70 and would rather die than live in tyranny.”

Go right ahead, pal. No one will miss you.

[-] ArugulaZ@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 months ago

I'll just say what George W. Bush liked to say during his presidency. "Bring it on." If you try to kill me, you best not miss.

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[-] Zink@programming.dev 13 points 3 months ago

I remember watching movies as a kid where the children were these clever little heroes and the adults were morons or bad guys they had to deal with. It’s fun for kids to see the tables turned and watch the children in the movie save the day or outsmart the dumb adult.

I got a very strong vibe like that (but worse) while reading this story. These people are caught up in a fantasy they’ve been sold where they have to save everything they love from evil. They seem to live in a fantasy movie world where if you feel like the righteous underdog, and other “good” people tell you the same thing, then surely you are the hero! You can’t listen to evidence and reason from outsiders, they’re just trying to trick you!

[-] CompostMaterial@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Honestly, I'm inclined to agree. I also don't see a way out without bloodshed. Not because I want Republicans to die or think that Democrats are so great that I am ready to die for them, but rather because we have split so far ideologically that I cannot see us ever being united again and we seemingly don't have any method available for a peaceful divorce.

My personal plan is to leave the country permanently as soon as I retire, but that is 15 years away. I can only hope that things stay somewhat together until then and I will use my vote to try to help it do so.

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