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EA gonna EA (lemmy.world)
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[-] loo@lemmy.world 96 points 6 months ago

Noita, Hades, Factorio. Three insanely good games without ads or ingame purchases with very high replayability. Just don't give EA more money, please.

[-] TotalFat@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Electronic Arts started out so differently. The best, highest quality games, sold in album cases like vinyl records. They wanted to make their devs into rock stars. M.U.L.E., Seven Cities of Gold, Archon. Every game was innovative in every way.

Much later they'd changed, shifted toward the dark side, slipping way. But they still managed to bring us two of my favorite MMOs of all time: Motor City Online and Earth and Beyond.

MCO was online multiplayer Need For Speed with real classic American cars with real hot rod parts, the real engines, everything. I've not seen anything like it since. Hardly no one wants to pay to license real world cars any more. And you certainly don't get the real engines with the real hot rod parts.

EAB was a crappy FPS but somehow 2D space game, but it had the best crafting and leveling system. You take things apart eventually learning how to build things. Player built stuff could possibly go was high as 200% quality so other players would want to buy your wares. The leveling system had three distinct lines: exploration, combat, and trade. Play the game how you wanted to having fun your way not how they think you should.

Anyway, EA killed them both, turned off the servers, refused to release the server code so player servers or single player modes were impossible. They sent me a coupon for their new Sims game, though.

So fuck EA. Haven't bought a single one of their games since.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 22 points 6 months ago

Satisfactory for me personally, I enjoy factorio but I like the first person vibe more

[-] loo@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

For me it's the opposite haha

[-] Galapagon@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago

Just waiting for it to leave early access

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 5 points 6 months ago

It's their next update, it's been a long road to 1.0 but the game is finally feeling complete. They've announced the next update will be 1.0, and it's expected this year.

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[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 74 points 6 months ago

Buying games online was supposed to be cheaper, too. Cuz no money spent on packaging and retail space...

[-] pleb_maximus@feddit.de 50 points 6 months ago

It is cheaper. All the money saved just goes to the publishers.

[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 42 points 6 months ago

So they can pay their devs more, right? 😀

So they can pay their devs more, right? 😟

[-] Plume 55 points 6 months ago

Hell, the game could go from 70$ to Free with Ads, I'd still not be interested. I despise ads and I absolutely refuse to see them.

[-] Trollivier@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 months ago

I feel you, friend

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[-] Tetsuo@jlai.lu 43 points 6 months ago

Fuck this.

There will be literally ads everywhere soon.

Ads in the street, on TV, on the radio, in magazines, on the internet, in games (including in VR)...

It's a nightmare it will be completely impossible to go through one minute of your life without being sold something.

It's not really something new but it saddens me because gaming was one of the few space that was mostly spared by advertisers. One of the last place you could get out of your reality for a little while.

Now this is over. Just like Netflix people will go up in arms against ads and then still get Free2Play games showing ads and normalize that practice.

[-] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

I have removed alot of advertising on tv by self hosting my dvd/br content. Best decision i had in a while, its like netflix but content is there forever and always accessible from anywhere in the world (if my upload can keep up). Fair amount of work but no subscription chargers

[-] LoreleiSankTheShip@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago

I don't know, I have removed close to 80% of ads in my life. None on my pc, none on my phone, none when I listen to music, none when I play games. Adblocking, Linux and a dash of the old yarr matey worked like a charm

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[-] TommySoda@lemmy.world 34 points 6 months ago

Honestly, I can't even remember the last time I bought an EA game. What do they even make these days besides sports games?

[-] Usernamealreadyinuse@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

Yes, but also the star wars and sims franchise

[-] Mr_Fish@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

Only ea games I can think of that I've bought are jedi: fallen order and jedi: survivor. And I only bought them because they're actually good games that aren't monetized like a casino.

[-] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 33 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Any paid softwares/games should never have ads even if it only 0.1$

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

I don't mind having the choice at least, years ago Amazon did this with their Kindles (or maybe they still do, dunno). You were given a choice on their Kindle order page, save 40$ on an ad supported version or full price and ad-free. It even stacked (At least once anyways) with other sales they might have been running.

I chose the ad supported model... and then proceeded to root it and remove the ads LMAO

[-] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

I went with the ad supported model, and now I'm thoroughly sick of ads and Amazon, but unfortunately you can no longer root their devices, they've really locked them down.

I'm considering buying another tablet just because I'm so sick of Amazon's crap. I wonder if Free Geek has any decent tablets for sale?

[-] emumu@sh.itjust.works 15 points 6 months ago

Can't wait for nobody to understand ads in old video games when they're being played years later.

It also always reminds me of this: https://piped.video/watch?v=XPGgTy5YJ-g

[-] MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works 19 points 6 months ago

Bold of you to assume the games will even be available to play years later.

[-] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[-] EldritchFeminity 9 points 6 months ago

Or because the servers went offline or the company didn't bother to keep the source code. A few years ago, there was a really bad remaster of one of the GTA games where it turned out they used the mobile version of the game as the source code because Rockstar hadn't bothered to keep a copy of the game. There was another time where it turned out that the copy used for a remaster of a game was a cracked version of the game, and people could tell because they hadn't even bothered to remove the cracker's logo. It's estimated that over 50% of games are now gone forever because companies just don't bother to preserve copies of the source code.

[-] neo@feddit.de 16 points 6 months ago

Hence all games should only work while online to keep commercials up to date and measure user interaction..., I mean, to provide the best user experience possible. /s

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[-] Donebrach@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

I’m not at all defending advertisements because, like every single person on earth, I hate them. However, the constant complaint that ~games are expensive~ is more and more becoming absolutely out of touch. Considering how complex modern games are from a software standpoint, they are fucking cheap as hell. $60 for (generally speaking) 40+ hours of entertainment is a goddamn bargain, not to mention they’ve mostly been priced the same for the better part of two decades. Y’all realize actual people make these things right? People who need to be paid for the work they do? Of all the absolute shit that happens behind the scenes and in plain daylight in the gaming industry, I think we can find better things to bitch about than the price of games.

[-] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Considering how complex modern games are from a software standpoint, they are fucking cheap as hell

Frameworks, ready to use engines and props and less care for efficiency (see Ark Survival) make it less effort for more results.

Wasn't there some asian guy who made a whole action level in Unity just for fun?

[-] Donebrach@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

So because someone made something as a hobby that means other people shouldn’t be paid for work? Also, sure, tools exist to ease in the production of a game (and in every other creative media), doesn’t negate the fact that people’s talent and work are what make the product exist.

[-] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 12 points 6 months ago

No, i only said it isn't as expensive as you think anymore.

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[-] EldritchFeminity 16 points 6 months ago

I'd agree with you if the devs were being treated better, games should cost more and be shorter. But the price hikes aren't that. They're pure greed.

That extra money isn't going to pay the developers. EA just shut down multiple studios, including the studio responsible for the critically acclaimed AA game High-Fi Rush, and are already talking about shutting down more. EA has closed more studios than they've released games this year, and the past 3 years have seen record high layoffs - even worse than during the 2008 financial crash. All this while companies brag about record-breaking profits.

And with the rise of digital media, production costs saw a significant decrease. There was a short period of time where physical copies were $60 and digital were $40. Now digital are averaging $70 and execs are already talking about increasing the price to $80-100.

[-] Donebrach@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

So… Like I said, there are plenty of things to complain about in the gaming industry aside from the price of AAA titles (which contrary to your claim) have remained priced at about $60 for the past 20+ years. These so-called price hikes are non-existent, and based on inflation, are actually price decreases. Yes, most profits for everything (not just games) go to the CEOs and investors, that is the root cause of the destruction of the western world.

Also there are myriad fantastic indie titles that only cost like $20 so, uh, go play them instead?

As for your claim of digital releases briefly being cheaper than physical copies—I don’t recall that ever being a thing. Granted, I was mostly a console gamer from the 90s through the early 2010s so maybe I missed that.

[-] AnIntenseMoist@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

You realize that it's much easier now to make a game than it was two decades ago (see other comment)? That digital platforms make it more accessible for buyers to get your game? That the overall trend in the industry has been to get a game out as fast as possible then try to patch it after the fact, when that wasn't even an option two decades ago (internet existed, sure, but not everyone had good internet)? Sure, the quality of graphics may have gone up, but everything else has been left behind.

Also, saying that people complaining about price is out-of-touch, is itself out-of-touch. Most people have even less purchasing power now than they did two decades ago and you want us to pay even more for a product inferior to what we would've gotten years ago?

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[-] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

that would be fair if these companies weren't incredibly profitable, only increasing that profit, and only using that profit to pay the executive and shareholders.

it's just greed. they don't need the money.

[-] fatalError@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 6 months ago

What about DLCs? And micro-transactions? And lack of optimisations? Base games these days are more like beta versions of what used to be provided in the past... It kinda feels like shrinkflation, price is the same but you get a lot less, both in quality and quantity.

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[-] Mr_Fish@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

Indie games, FromSoft, and larian ftw.

[-] imnotfromkaliningrad@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 months ago

its almost like the rate of profit is falling, forcing capitalists to find new ways to exploit everything and everyone around them...

[-] TurboHarbinger@feddit.cl 8 points 6 months ago

Imagine new patches for old games with this shit.

[-] Stern@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Billboard ads? Shitty but ehh not that bad overall. In game ads over radio or video? Nah miss me on that.

[-] Jako301@feddit.de 5 points 6 months ago

It's the implementation that will probably annoy me the most. If the ingame radio station in GTA tried to sell me coke or Pepsi I probably wouldn't even notice since it fits in with the world. But knowing EA they will probably put them in as additional loading screen that you can't skip.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

fuck that, if it has ads and/or microtransactions it better be free

[-] Usernamealreadyinuse@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago
[-] pewgar_seemsimandroid 4 points 6 months ago

Ubisoft gonna try beat them to it

[-] BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

I'm so glad I haven't bought an EA game since Battlefield 1942.

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