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submitted 7 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

It is a scenario playing out nationwide. From Oregon to Pennsylvania, hundreds of communities have in recent years either stopped adding fluoride to their water supplies or voted to prevent its addition. Supporters of such bans argue that people should be given the freedom of choice. The broad availability of over-the-counter dental products containing the mineral makes it no longer necessary to add to public water supplies, they say. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says that while store-bought products reduce tooth decay, the greatest protection comes when they are used in combination with water fluoridation.

The outcome of an ongoing federal case in California could force the Environmental Protection Agency to create a rule regulating or banning the use of fluoride in drinking water nationwide. In the meantime, the trend is raising alarm bells for public health researchers who worry that, much like vaccines, fluoride may have become a victim of its own success.

The CDC maintains that community water fluoridation is not only safe and effective but also yields significant cost savings in dental treatment. Public health officials say removing fluoride could be particularly harmful to low-income families — for whom drinking water may be the only source of preventive dental care.

“If you have to go out and get care on your own, it’s a whole different ballgame,” said Myron Allukian Jr., a dentist and past president of the American Public Health Association. Millions of people have lived with fluoridated water for years, “and we’ve had no major health problems,” he said. “It’s much easier to prevent a disease than to treat it.”

According to the anti-fluoride group Fluoride Action Network, since 2010, over 240 communities around the world have removed fluoride from their drinking water or decided not to add it.

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[-] thatsnothowyoudoit@lemmy.ca 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Fluoridation is part of a communist conspiracy to sap and impurity all our bodily fluids.

Powerful men have been worried about it since the Cold War.

Great, if dramatic, video on the subject: https://piped.video/watch?v=J67wKhddWu4

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[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 7 months ago

I had great teeth as a kid, but then moved out to the boonies with well water, 5-6 years later I started getting cavities (while still getting fluoride at the dentist twice a year). My teeth have been nothing but problems since.

Now our town water refuses to add fluoride and a bunch of my son’s school mates already have fillings in kindergarten.

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[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

Oh good. Whats old is new again.

Flouride conspiracies are old hat compared to most of the bullshit thats been bandied about in the past 10 years.

[-] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

Are we sure these people don't just want to ban Florida but have a spelling problem?

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[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 15 points 7 months ago

Just fighting against the most insidious of communist plots.

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[-] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

Fun fact: spreading conspiracy theories about the evils of fluoride in the water (it's mind control! pollutes our precious bodily fluids!) was one of the talking points that crypto-fascists threw against the wall to see if it would stick- if you recall the line about your "precious bodily fluids" in Dr. Strangelove, that was a nod to that particular vein of conspiracy theory that was making the rounds in the far-loony fringes of what was then the Republican party

[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Supporters of such bans argue that people should be given the freedom of choice.

I truly do not mean to belittle anyone who holds this opinion, but isn't this such a minor thing to be worried so much about, to try to prevent?

I just mean there seems to be like a hundred other things that would be more important to discuss before we get to fluoride in the water.

[-] Dultas@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

No one is forcing them to drink tap water with fluoride in it. They can buy purified water if they're that afraid of it.

I bet the same people that are worried about fluoride have never had their tap water actually tested to see what their pipes might be leeching.

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[-] KyuubiNoKitsune 13 points 7 months ago

All I can think about is Dr Strangelove.

Well, they're fighting hard against that commie plot and winning.

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

It's the one good thing we got from Fluorine chemistry.

And they don't want it.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

Stupid upcoming second Dark Ages. Things were just starting to get interesting.

Welp, does anyone need good bleeding with leaches and some infected nasty turnip that is all-natural whole food?

[-] artichokecustard@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

i don't drink tap water, i don't think as many people do generally in the US as they used to 20 years ago, there's a lot of reasons for that, but it would be interesting to see how much fluoride the average person takes in from drinking water to begin with nowadays

[-] DaleGribble88@programming.dev 10 points 7 months ago

A friend of mine used to always make fun of me for not drinking tap water. I explained that it taste bad and that you can see the particles floating around in it. He said "no no no, the Gov wouldn't allow that. It's safe to drink!" I know it is safe, but the quality sucks.

This same friend stopped drinking from the tap after he moved to the neighborhood next to mine.

All that is to say that while the tap water in most areas of the US are perfectly safe for consumption, that doesn't mean that it is pleasant tasting.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

you can see the particles floating around

Good god! Where do you live?!

I'll grant that tap water may not taste great. This sounds stupidly picky, and I'm not, but there's a clear difference in the water from our bathroom tap, kinda gross, and the kitchen tap, totally normal. Been like that since the house was new, 7-years ago.

One thing people don't get, tap water is only nasty, if at all, when you first pour it. Take a glass and blast it full. Take a sniff, get your nose right on top.

If you let it sit for a day, it's perfectly "flat". This is why people's houseplants suffer and turn brown at the tips. The plant pushes the chemicals, like fluorine and other stuff, out to the leaf tips, turns 'em dead. Let your water sit a day and it's about like rainwater. (I know minerals like fluoride won't change or evaporate out. Don't know anything about municipal water treatment.)

And that's another thing! I've noticed for years that when it's dry, watering from the hose helps, of course. But a solid rain pops the green out. Very interesting to observe.

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