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[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 60 points 7 months ago
[-] Oneobi@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Indeed. I smacked my head as I fell!

[-] Lumisal@lemmy.world 34 points 7 months ago

Pretty sure Windows 11 itself has become a data collection service at this point

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 months ago

I think Windows XP probably was the start of it

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 33 points 7 months ago

Outlook and Gmail have always been data collection tools, apart from being spam magnets

[-] NOOBMASTER@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago

Weirdly enough, I have had less spam mail on my gmail account, than I have on the account of an e-mail provider from my country.

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago

Anyway, Gmail is a no go. From Google TOS

“Our automated systems analyze your content (including emails) to provide you personally relevant product features, such as customized search results, tailored advertising, and spam and malware detection. This analysis occurs as the content is sent, received, and when it is stored.”

As said, they read and analyze your mail, mainly to sell it to advertizing companies. Google make money with this.

[-] LambdaRX@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago

In my country popular free email providers send many spam messages to users by themselves, so inbox looks much worse than in gmail.

[-] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago

I’m shocked, truly

[-] FIST_FILLET@lemmy.ml 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

this title totally buries the ~~lead~~ lede: outlook has started displaying ads in inboxes, that’s the story and that’s what Proton was pointing out

[-] vardogor@mander.xyz 4 points 7 months ago
[-] FIST_FILLET@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

damn i never knew! thank you

[-] Scolding0513@sh.itjust.works 16 points 7 months ago

i love Proton but they kinda going after low hanging fruit on this one

[-] SquirtleHermit@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Low hanging fruit tastes just as good, and for a lot less work.

[-] exanime@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

I don't doubt it... I am looking hard at ProtonMail for the fam... but $290 a year is a bit of a hit

[-] menemen@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago

Have a look at Posteo. Might have all you need and starts at 1€/month. https://posteo.de/en

[-] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 1 points 7 months ago

I just checked the price, it seems like unlimited (with storage, vpn, pass etc) only cost $120 for the first year. And it is $156 for normal price.

And if you only need mail, that only cost around $50 for the first year.

Unless your $ doesn't mean U.S. dollar?

[-] Nanabaz2@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

He said for the "fam"

I think he meant family package)

[-] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 4 points 7 months ago

Oh, that is 6 user with 3 terabyte of storage. average to 50$ per user per year. In where I live, that is like 2 meals outside per year, and cheaper than office 365 personal.

To me this is pretty good value, but I understand people are different. However, I cannot get them yet, as proton drive still don't have a linux client (or any client for that matter)...

[-] Nanabaz2@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

As far as I know, tested, and using right now - rclone (through Round Sync) on Android support Proton drive. And it uses the same core as normal Linux rclone.

So yes, there is a client - rclone. And believe me, my own Nextcloud and pronton drives are accessed through rclone. Most clients suck

[-] fuzzzerd@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago

Proton drive has windows and Android clients that work well. I'd love a Linux client for drive and for them to fix the photo upload issue on android, but eventually those things will come.

[-] Nanabaz2@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

For the moment. Round Sync on Android (use rclone) and rclone on Linux to just mount it. Better than any stupid client tbh

[-] fl42v@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago

Sending plain-text passwords is rather interesting, tho. Could've at least optionally encrypted 'em with a key derived from smth known by the user only.

[-] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago

Just use either the web version, PWA, or Thunderbird.

[-] Xy_lemmy@lemmy.ml 12 points 7 months ago

I'm sure the PWA is the one that's being talked about here. Notice the "new Outlook app" in the title.

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

Been using betterbird(a fork of thunderbird) for a long time and it has been fantastic. Never disappoints.

[-] heavyboots@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago

So obviously not to everyone's taste but if you have access to iCloud+ email, your mail isn’t scanned for sale (as per their US privacy agreement anyway), you get randomized email addresses available to give to places that you think might be spammy and you can link a domain to your account, although you’re only allowed 3 email boxes per user in your family per domain. Works well for me so far. Mind you because of photo storage size and devices backups I’m up to $3/ month from the original $1/month when I started.

Plus with Advanced Data Protection a lot of iCloud info is E2E encrypted. (Not email tho.)

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