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[-] Caradoc879@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is literally a NATO proxy-war with Russia. If we don't want to send actual troops, we better be giving them all the equipment they ask for. Blank check.

[-] freehugs@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Is it really a proxy war if NATO is reacting to Russian agression, though? Maybe I misunderstand the meaning of the term, but I don't see much evidence that NATO was rooting for this conflict to escalate the way it did.

[-] norske@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 1 year ago

Trying to make sure I understood the root of your question here.

Is it that the war in Ukraine can’t be a proxy war because NATO isn’t rooting for it?

[-] freehugs@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In my understanding, calling the Ukraine war a NATO proxy war suggests that NATO is seen as an agressor/enabler in this conflict, effectively exploiting Ukraine to further NATO's agenda. I'm not sure if that's what the other commenter was implying (cause if so I would disagree with them), but that's why I'm asking :)

[-] Deuces@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I just looked up the definition and you're absolutely right. I'm not the OP but I would have used it the same way. I always thought a proxy war was any war between two great powers where at least one didn't get involved, I never realized it required an absent power to be the aggressor.

[-] LostCause@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Probably the main goal is defense of Ukraine and not hurting Russia like in cold war proxy wars. So it feels a bit inappropriate to use that term as if they were just a puppet being used to fight Russia for some vague NATO aims beyond their own survival and maybe future trade, when they are mainly fighting as to not get genocided.

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