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[-] corroded@lemmy.world 155 points 5 months ago

Fuck that. I don't care where they're from. Scammers don't deserve to be treated with respect or dignity. They are subhuman trash and ruin people's lives.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 91 points 5 months ago

"Pajeet" is racist as fuck. We can hate scammers without being racist.

[-] Hubi@feddit.org 49 points 5 months ago

I don't see how it's any different from calling Russians "Ivan" of Germans "Fritz". It's not a nice thing to do but I'd place it pretty far down on the racism scale tbh.

[-] EndlessKnotBoi@lemm.ee 28 points 5 months ago

Ivan or Fritz are real names/surnames from those countries which have completely different meaning now compared to how they were used in wars. Pajeet is a made up name only used so far to hate on Indians/ South Asians.

[-] Hubi@feddit.org 30 points 5 months ago

TIL it's not even a real name

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Nope. Closest I can think of are Prajyot and Pradeep.

[-] WldFyre@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

It does look a lot like Paget, which is a French name pronounced differently

[-] JakJak98@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

While yes it is absolutely racist, scammers are not capable of having an identity associated with someone who is on par with humanity. They're far below animals.

I prefer the term "demihuman" or any other dehumanizing language so they know who they are.

Minus the human trafficked ones of course. Only the vast majority who do it willingly.

Edit: let me clarify. I did not say using racist terminology is correct nor justified. I'm saying that people who scam others are so far removed from the identity of humanity and compassion that they do not deserve the light of day, much less the air they breathe.

[-] doctordevice@lemmy.ca 43 points 5 months ago

Using racial slurs isn't only damaging and insulting to the person being directly talked to or about. I suggest adopting a blanket position against racial slurs in any context.

[-] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 15 points 5 months ago

But what about <incredibly contrived specific example involving song lyrics, guns to heads etc.>, can I say it then?

[-] JakJak98@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

I didnt say using racial slurs is correct. I said the act of scamming someone is so far removed from the identity of what it means to be human.

I never defended the terminology used in the post. Nor would I use that. Its shallow, and means far less than telling them they aren't someone capable of receiving any care.

[-] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Scamming is core to what it is to be human, other animals don't scam, and when they do, insofar as they do, we say they are like us

[-] Belastend@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

Yay, someone committed le wrong, that means we get dehumanoze them yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

[-] JakJak98@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

I'm a bit lost. I didn't justify using racist terms. I'm saying that scammers lack the core traits of humanity, compassion and care in others.

And they don't deserve anything, let alone feeling comfortable in a conversation, or the air they breathe.

That is regardless of race, sex, gender. If you scam someone else, you don't deserve life.

[-] Sazruk@lemmy.wtf 3 points 5 months ago

I get scammed every day on a near daily basis. I get scammed when my landlord raises my rent without fair cause. I get scammed when I look at inflated sale prices at my local grocery store for already shrinkflated goods. I get scammed when I get fees and tips tacked on to my bill when I go to the movie theater or a restaurant. It’s fucking infuriating but I don’t wish death upon my waitress, the store owner, or even my landlord. It’s all just unregulated capitalism in action. Scams, big or small, make money, and money moves us forward.

Just because some degenerate across the world with a funny accent who I will likely never interact with plays by the same rules doesn’t mean he should be thrown into a wood chipper. IMO.

[-] Belastend@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Dehumanization isnt just racism lol. Its any kind of denial of humanity to anyone. And i really dont care for it.

[-] MrShankles@reddthat.com 22 points 5 months ago

And a large portion of them are being trafficked for slave labor; so that's fun

[-] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago

Doesn't that actually absolve them of their shit behavior? It isn't the same to try and scam grandmas because you want a shinier car than because you're locked at a basement and beaten up if you don't make your kidnappers money.

[-] MrShankles@reddthat.com 4 points 5 months ago

Sorry, when I said "So that's fun", I was being sarcastic

But that's kinda what I was trying to get at. You don't really know if a scammer is being trafficked or not, so casting a wide net that calls all of them human garbage becomes difficult

[-] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

explain the calling back and death threats then?

[-] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

Imagine you're already a slave and then someone curses your mother.

[-] ASeriesOfPoorChoices@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

right. laugh and move on because that's a childish thing to do?

also, if I'm a slave, wasting my master's time making prank calls and not making money will get me beaten.

Now, you imagine your mother getting cursed.

[-] Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

I think you severely misinterpreted my comment.

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