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submitted 4 months ago by FatCat@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.ml

Whenever AI is mentioned lots of people in the Linux space immediately react negatively. Creators like TheLinuxExperiment on YouTube always feel the need to add a disclaimer that "some people think AI is problematic" or something along those lines if an AI topic is discussed. I get that AI has many problems but at the same time the potential it has is immense, especially as an assistant on personal computers (just look at what "Apple Intelligence" seems to be capable of.) Gnome and other desktops need to start working on integrating FOSS AI models so that we don't become obsolete. Using an AI-less desktop may be akin to hand copying books after the printing press revolution. If you think of specific problems it is better to point them out and try think of solutions, not reject the technology as a whole.

TLDR: A lot of ludite sentiments around AI in Linux community.

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[-] FQQD@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 239 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I dont think the community is generally against AI, there's plenty of FOSS projects. They just don't like cashgrabs, enshittification and sending personal data to someone else's computer.

[-] anamethatisnt@lemmy.world 56 points 4 months ago

sending personal data to someone else’s computer.

I think this is spot on. I think it's exciting with LLMs but I'm not gonna give the huge corporations my data, nor anyone else for that matter.

[-] FatCat@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

I don't see anyone calling for cash grabs or privacy destroying features to be added to gnome or other projects so I don't see why that would be an issue. 🙂

On device Foss models to help you with various tasks.

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 46 points 4 months ago

You are, if you're calling for Apple like features.

You might argue that "private cloud" is privacy preserving, but you can only implement that with the cash of Apple. I would also argue that anything leaving my machine, to a bunch of servers I don't control, without my knowledge is NOT preserving my privacy.

[-] Auli@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 months ago

I’m waiting for the moment the storey breaks they ChatGPT didn’t do what Apple asked.

[-] FatCat@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You might argue that "private cloud" is privacy preserving

I don't know since when "on device" means send it to a server. Come up with more straw men I didn't mention for you to defeat.

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 29 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Apple's "private cloud" is a thing. Not all "Apple Intelligence" features are "on device", some can and do utilize cloud-based processing power, and this will also be available to app developers.

Apparently this has additional safeguards vs "normal cloud" which is why they are branding it "private cloud".

But it's still "someone else's computer" and apple is not keeping their AI implementation 100% on device.

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 1 points 4 months ago

Since Apple's keynote this week.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

On device Foss models to help you with various tasks.

Thankfully I really really don't need an "AI" to use my desktop. I don't want that kind of BS bloat either. But go ahead and install whatever you want on your machine.

[-] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago

It is quite a bloat. Llama3 7B is 4.7GB by itself, not counting all the dependencies and drivers. This can easily take 10+ GB of the drive. My Ollama setup takes about 30GB already. Given a single application (except games like COD that takes up 300GB), this is huge, almost the size of a clean OS install.

[-] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 12 points 4 months ago

FQQD probably refers to companies such as MS, Apple, Google, Adobe, etc. since they usually incorporate AI into everything.

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