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"We hope the world hears us and knows that the people of Israel are not the government of Israel," said one protester.

Israelis protested on Saturday night, calling for a ceasefire and the resignation of hardline Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. 

Tens of thousands took to the streets in Tel Aviv to demand that the government reach a deal with Hamas to secure the release of Israeli hostages in Gaza. 

They also called for new elections, accusing Netanyahu of prolonging the conflict to keep himself in power.

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[-] McDropout@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Most of these people take/haven taken part in the IDF and have been actively participating in Apartheid. These people have been actively been on check points, raided Palestinian houses and killed and kidnapped (yes, kidnapped, because some are in prison without being proven guilty of anything).

This was done by Israelis.

Israelis are actively living in houses that aren’t theirs. In houses where the owners left due to their terrorism.

“We are not our government” but you are.

Spare me the crocodile tears and the fake democracy. We all saw your true colors. Genocidal maniacs.****

[-] Laser@feddit.de 10 points 6 months ago

Most of these people take/haven taken part in the IDF

Most likely? I mean Israel has a draft for women and men with the only exception being Orthodox Jews - which, ironically, might be the ones most in favor of the current government. How does that make their point irrelevant?

have been actively participating in Apartheid.

Dude, that word has a different meaning from what you're implying. Call the atrocities in Gaza a genocide, that's fair. But it's not apartheid and neither is Israel an apartheid state, nor an ethnostate. Source: been to Israel, talked to people, there are no Jewish / non-Jewish toilets or fountains or anything, non-Jewish stores next to Jewish ones etc.

The rest of your blathering is just generalization. The same applied to people living in Gaza would make a lot of unjust actions look much better - after all, most of the people in Gaza have kidnapped and slaughtered civilians, no? Yeah, probably not.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

So what do you call it when Israel controls the West Bank and Gaza, corrals and oppresses those populations and denies them representation? Sure as fuck seems like Apartheid from here, and this Genocide is just a brutal response to a violent resistance movement.

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

You're an imbecile. I know a lot of people in the US military that didn't rape anyone in Iraq or Afghanistan.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 2 points 6 months ago

Do you think they would tell you?

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

How provocative. Enjoy your echo chamber big dog.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 2 points 6 months ago

If you want to leave yours, you might want consider finding out what the yearly sexual assault rate is in the military from other military members alone.

And then the total percentage of Americans that have been assaulted.

You know rapists. You just do.

How many of them have told you what they are? What do you think the rate was during a military occupation?

[-] FrowingFostek@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

True but, isn't it also true that a ceasefire is desirable? Isn't it also true that the current prime minister should not hold power?

These people protesting could be fairly judged as guilty of all the things you said. Would that make the things they are asking for invalid?

Is perfection the realistic result? I dont think so.

Can we be happy fewer Palestinians die as a result of this? I like to think so.

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