213
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 17 Apr 2024
213 points (100.0% liked)
politics
19089 readers
3451 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Why are you splitting hairs to defend insurrectionists?
Is it because they beat capitol police and you hate the police?
If you spread false information, even if it's in the name of a good cause, you will make it harder for people to believe you or people supporting your good cause when you talk about true information. There's enough issues with conservatives that you don't need to invent more like a conspiracy theorist.
No, it is because like I said the Supreme Court did ask some valid questions... there are plenty of laws that the people on Jan. 6 broke, but the one in particular that they are using could equally be applied to protesters that have also disrupted official proceedings. If the police have evidence that all the people that went into the capitol were there with a plan to assassinate and specifically harm members of congress, then yes I think that they should qualify under this law. But, merely going into the capitol building is not sufficient evidence in of itself. I'm just saying, be careful what you wish for and don't be surprised if suddenly climate activists and other Democrat protesters don't get charged with the same thing once you do.
They already get charged. The insurrectionists were treated with kid gloves and are to this day.
Being charged with a crime is not the same as being convicted though, and currently the challenge before the Supreme Court is in regards to what crimes they can be convicted with. It isn't an easy subject and I agree the Supreme Court is biased and corrupt, but I also try my best to evaluate the case law and I still believe that they asked some good questions about when it is okay to charge someone with this particular crime when it appears that it could apply to Democrat protesters in several cases as well that were not charged. Not only that, but you get a few corrupt cops and next thing you know they claim that some peaceful protester outside the capital building assaulted them, then they could claim all peaceful protesters there intended to be violent and charge them all with 20 to 30 years under 18 U.S. Code § 1512. Heck, even impeding traffic under 18 U.S. Code § 1512 could be argued to prevent communication to a judge.
Later in this thread you conflate the insurrectionists with BLM. You've been downplaying the insurrection this entire thread. They beat police officers mercilessly multiple times, on camera. We all saw what happened. The medical examiner said that Sicknick died for reasons unrelated to the injuries he sustained at the hands of your favorite people, but it's not like they weren't fucking trying to beat him to death.
This person or AI is clearly doing that CIA disrupt productivity thing & goading you to respond again & again— don’t fall for it
You really do take everything out of context for your own agenda don't you? I didn't conflate the people on Jan 6 to BLM. My only point was do you want all people in an area or vicinity getting charged with the same thing that a select few of a group may only be guilty of. Do you not agree that for each defendant in a case, that evidence needs to be presented to show specifically what crimes they were trying to commit... or, do you think that if people are in an area where a few protesters throw a molotov cocktail that everyone else even when they were never there with the intention of starting a fire should all be charged with the same crime? You can twist my words all you want, and I'm sure you'd love to have mod or are reporting this to mods cause heck people like you definitely don't like it when people point out their inconsistencies and call them out for actually being the propaganda while making claims about people like me.
You say these people are my "favorite people" but you have no evidence, and I can assure you they aren't, but you really don't care. It is all about the false narrative you wish to push. It sounds to me like you don't care how Sicknick actually died, but that you'll gladly use his death in whatever narrative is most convenient for you.