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[-] SonnyVabitch@lemmy.world 198 points 9 months ago

If you ever feel useless just remember somebody designed and implemented the share-to-facebook feature on porn sites.

[-] JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world 150 points 9 months ago

That isn’t there so people use it. That is there so that Facebook can track where you go

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 87 points 9 months ago

Course they only need a 1px by 1px image for that right?

Shoutout Facebook Container for Firefox, or Firefox if you’re still using a browser that’s killing the open web 😉

[-] SonnyVabitch@lemmy.world 55 points 9 months ago
[-] xantoxis@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago

At this point both of these guys are saying "I have seen horrible things"

[-] smeg@feddit.uk 9 points 9 months ago

They're both the same guy, just one's wearing a hat

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.

[-] DarylDutch@lemmy.world 33 points 9 months ago

No man. That is a brilliant feature that has caught out many "anti-gay" politician's.

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 29 points 9 months ago

Wanted to prove people used those buttons, but maybe not (need to use better/unblocked terms I suppose):

Low Stakes Conspiracies: that share button is there to get users banned. Activist admins or funded by Musk himself?

(Yeah, they pulled a permanent Twitter Taylor Swift on Pornhub.)

Proof 404 (2003)

[-] lewdian69@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

I didn't believe you but can confirm this blank search within the Facebook app. Instagram, by the same parent company, has lots of results though. Guess all the puritanical boomers are on Facebook not Insta

[-] EldritchFeminity 10 points 9 months ago

I wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of "shadow ban" style component to this. I think Tumblr does something like that where postsand tags that are marked as sexually explicit can't be found by searching for them, but if you're following the person, you can see them.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 18 points 9 months ago

If you're ever depressed about building useless software just remember - leveraged buyouts are a thing. You could buy your company for nothing by just putting massive debt in the company account and actually manage it right.

Well, in theory, in actuality this piece of accounting bullshit is reserved for vulture capitalists that will destroy the value of the company and asshats (see: Elon Musk) that will destroy the value of the company.

Capitalism destroys everything that we build!

[-] mcmoor@bookwormstory.social 9 points 9 months ago

Well unless you somehow able to liquidate more money than the debt, the lender is the fool. The original founder practically got an exit that all startups wanted, you get the cheated money, but the lender gets nothing. You have to be able to fool someone into this position first.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago

Oh certainly. I'm sure Elon Musk is totally going to pay that loan back. It's impossible that he bought out Twitter just to be able to ban people who pointed out how much of an asshat he is. Also, Trump somehow keeps getting loans and he's loses more money every month than most of us make in a decade - that's the sort of savvy businessman you can trust.

[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 2 points 9 months ago

At the same time capitalism has built almost everything we have.

[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

That's a pretty hot take saying that on the internet considering the Internet got its start as a government program. Hell, a lot of the fiber in the US was done through corporate welfare programs. A lot of rural places wouldn't even have Internet if it weren't for our taxes going to the common good (like socialism!). Let's not forget all the things that came out of NASA and government funded universities.

He'll, I like a bit of capitalism. A well regulated market that promotes competition can be fantastic. But to say almost everything came from capitalism is either ignorant, willfully stupid, or so full of propaganda that you can't possibly be a functional adult.

[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah it’s obviously as much of a hot take as it is to say “capitalism destroys everything”, which is what I was responding to.

I’ve grown up in a well regulated market economy, probably one of those countries the American right wing would call communist because, hey, you get a free education and health care, so I’ll be the first to acknowledge the role of the state.

The problem with most of online is that it’s seen through American lenses. When most people say communism they mean free healthcare and when most people say capitalism, they mean robber-baron free-wheeling markets without unions where cash is king and lobbyist are seen as a healthy part of government.

I’d like to be someplace in the middle please.

But bear in mind I was reacting to someone saying “capitalism destroys everything” and I mean, for Darwin’s sake, look around you. Almost everything I can see and touch has been delivered by a for-profit business operating in a capitalist society (one that for me has always, and should always, be well regulated).

I’m 46, married for 16 years, 4 kids and held a steady job since 18. I’ll leave it with you to decide if that’s a functioning adult or not. But thanks for getting personal, that really elevated the debate.

[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

If you don't want it to get personal then don't fight common Lemmy hyperbole with what is known to be a talking point of the "everything that I don't like is communism" dude bros.

Hell , I agree with everything you said. I like what you said. Seeing someone with my exact views that comes from a place where it happens warms the cockles of my heart. Maybe in the sub cockles. Maybe in the liver, maybe in the kidneys. Maybe even in the colon, I don't know.

Maybe I'm a little sensitive because I live in a place where what you said is the lie we're told every day. I watch the kind of people who say it and wonder when they're going back to jail for meth or stealing a car. I go back to my hometown and watch the people there say that through their single tooth and really believe it. They can't get better mouth bone care because they can't afford it, but they're sure robber barons will fix it.

So if I came off as an ass, I apologize. I deal with those people every fucking day of my life and have for over 4 decades.

[-] docAvid@midwest.social 3 points 9 months ago

At the same time capitalism has built almost everything we have.

Almost everything I can see and touch has been delivered by a for-profit business operating in a capitalist society

There's a couple ways to interpret these statements.

Are you talking about innovation, progress, invention? Realistically, no. Occasionally capitalists put enough resources in the right hands that somebody working under capitalists manages to invent something good, but most real innovation doesn't happen without government funding. Capitalists are very hesitant to risk their capital on the kind of critical R&D that is necessary to make progress. Even when it happens under capitalism, there's no reason to think that capitalist control of the market caused it to happen - any system that gives creative people the time and resources to work on things will have as good results, at least, and it's easy to construct a system that gives that time and resources to more creative people, with fewer bosses interfering and squashing anything that's not seen as profitable. Capitalism is, though, very good at capturing and controlling innovation, sometimes even just killing existing innovations outright - see "embrace, extend extinguish".

Are you talking about manufacture and delivery of final products? Sure, under capitalist systems, of course it's all done by capitalism, as other options aren't available, or at least, aren't given any room. If somebody builds a fence around the lake that everyone fishes in, and takes over the fish and sells them to people who used to catch their own, do you praise that person for providing fish? Do you think landlords are providing housing?

Capitalism isn't just commerce. Capitalism is an antidemocratic economic trait, where the production and distribution of goods, services, and information is controlled by unelected, private owners of capital. Does it "destroy everything we build" as the person you were replying to said? No, not everything, but it does destroy a lot, and control and pervert most of what's left.

[-] Corbin@programming.dev 7 points 9 months ago

Free Software is literally communist.

[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yes and I’m all for it.

It doesn’t change the core of my argument, which is to resist a comment saying “capitalism destroys everything we’ve built”.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

I will admit I was being rather hyperbolic - capitalism isn't all evil... but our current brand of capitalism is evil as fuck.

[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Who’s “our”? If you mean the American brand of capitalism, oh yes, that’s not a society I would prefer to live in.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

I'd probably generalize it to "western" but yea - the modern greed driven society that America loves.

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