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Women STEM students up to twice as likely as non-STEM students to have experienced sexism (www.hepi.ac.uk)

submitted 10 months ago by stopthatgirl7@kbin.social to c/technology@lemmy.world

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We know that women students and staff remain underrepresented in Higher Education STEM disciplines. Even in subjects where equivalent numbers of men and women participate, however, many women are still disadvantaged by everyday sexism. Our recent research found that women who study STEM subjects at undergraduate level in England were up to twice as likely as non-STEM students to have experienced sexism. The main perpetrators of this sexism were not university staff, however, but were men STEM degree students.

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[-] flicker@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

This is the most "not all men" answer I could ever imagine. You literally got angry at the data, not because there's sexism, but because there are other men who exist in other places who aren't sexist.

It's well-documented that women don't go into STEM. When data explains why women don't go into STEM, getting pissy because there are men who are in other fields who aren't sexist completely misses the entire goddamned point.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

I think he may have stumbled past a interesting point (his main point was kind of dumb)-

While I would say the STEM crowd is more susceptable to a certain kind of intellectual narcissism that allows shitty behavior, anyone doing this kind of study should hopefully be making an effort to address the idea that if like 1/6 of dudes are extra shitty then are the STEM students uniquely shitty or are they just normal shitty and the classroom breakdown just means that there's like 50% more shitty dudes and half as many targets for their shittyness.

That said, I'd love to see the stats on law schools as they tend have the "bro-est bros"

[-] LWD@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

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[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

Or, hear me out, it's just sexism.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

So not worth studying? How do you address things like sexism without attempting to understand it? the tech bro sexism itself might be an overlap with incel culture which may be solveable in a variety of ways or religious sexism which could be harder for a public US institution to address.

IMO it also affects how many extra counselors you'd need to hire to expand tech degrees vs non tech degrees and whether maybe some kind of socializing class should be included in curriculum - this isn't just some game, both the victims and perpetrators are real people who have to be accomodated/resocialized appropriately.

[-] Skates@feddit.nl 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Does the data explain why women don't go into stem, or does it simply state what women in stem self-report?

Don't go into stem, you can't read data. And I say that while honestly not caring about your genitals.

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