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[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago

Gutless judge refused to follow the Consitution of the United States.

[-] Bipta@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Read the Constitution yourself... It's pretty clearly not a gutless decision. The writers of the 14th amendment let us down.

[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

The Judge stated quite clearly Trump was involved in an insurrection and the 14th Amendment applies, but she would not enforce it.

[-] flipht@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

Because he's not running for president yet.

He's running for the private nomination of a private party. If he wins, he will be running for president. But states will still need to wait until he files to be on the ballot, because that's what needs to be blocked.

I don't like it either, but it's not actually crazy. Yet.

[-] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I actually buy that argument. That was a different judge in a different case in Minnesota that used that argument though. The judge in this case (Colorado) found he did engage in insurrection, and should be removed from the ballot, except bizarrely they decided the president was not a civil or military office so the 14th amendment didn't apply. It's mind boggling.

There is hope though. The finding of fact he engaged in insurrection isn't easily appealable. So we just need an appeals judge to point out that president is obviously a civil or military office (both actually).

[-] flipht@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the clarification. It's hard to keep up with all of his cases.

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago

Still kinda insane though considering how little time there is between the final primary and the national election, and how long it takes for lawsuits to process, and that the overall endgame is the presidency, not just being a GOP figurehead.

[-] flipht@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Agreed, but this is one of the problems with our election system - there's a long, informal wind up, during which we let these private entities use the election systems owned by the states, and then a pretty short official period.

The state by state filing deadlines spread from now-ish all the way to march.

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’m exhausted by it already and it’s not even primary season yet.

edit: the truly crazy part is that supposedly this long process is to allow voters to thoroughly vet candidates, and somehow George Santos still got through.

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