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[-] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

Yes, we can see he did that. Yes, she said that afterwards. She showed no signs of it at that moment.

I’m not saying she’s lying, I’m saying that the people on here pretend to know everything.

Personally, I’m curious how this goes. What more evidence I want? Nothing. Don’t think there’s more unless we can actually get a video with sound where we hear what both of them say.

[-] rusticus@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

So you don’t want any more evidence. So you either believe her or you think she’s a liar. Which is it?

[-] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

I gave you my answer to that already.

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 year ago

Yes, you believe the abuser caught in video but you’re too much of a coward to admit it outright.

[-] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

Another one making it personal. Seem certain people cannot have a decent argument without becoming personal.

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 year ago

If your argument has no basis in fact, it must come from your personal values.

[-] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

If that’s what you believe, that’s alright. I won’t comment to you any further.

[-] rusticus@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

No. You didn’t. You said “I’m not saying she’s lying”. That’s not the same.

Do you believe her statements or do you think she’s lying?

[-] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

Honestly? I don’t know what to believe. She could’ve as what was called “spontaneous agreement” and later on regretted and now saying she doesn’t want it.

Or she did not want it from the start but again how should I know when - I was not there to hear it?

I can say “I believe her” and then I’d be wrong. I can say “I don’t and believe the guy” and be wrong. Doesn’t change a thing. You are making this personal just like the other two.

My point still stands, people here pretend to know everything while we all were not there hearing it all.

So for what’s worth it - I do want to thank you for the respectable discussion. However I don’t like when things become personal in a discussion because that’s when the actual argument and discussion fades away.

I hope though, whatever happens, it will be with full transparency and the right person will be punished.

[-] rusticus@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

When someone in a position of power and authority does something like this to someone who is under their power, it is 100% inappropriate. The person in a position of power is always at fault, ESPECIALLY if that person then accuses the other of lying. This should not be a debate and I'm disappointed in your apparent lack of judgement. Do better.

this post was submitted on 26 Aug 2023
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